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Question: limit switches tripping from interferencee

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http://buildyourcnc.com/PrimeronHomingandLimitSwitches.aspx
There is a pin setting in Mach3 that says how to react to the inputs from the switches. Your setting is probably wrong as the trigger happens immediately.

You may want to think about shielded wire and/or a resistor on each limit switch line. If there are stray wires, connect them to ground. Additionally, the shield from the shielded cable insulation should alse connected to ground at both ends.
Try upping the Debounce interval in Mach3. You have to adjust the debounce interval. You go to config,general config, and it is in the top right corner. I set mine to 100 and it seems to work well.

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  • My limit switches keep tripping a reset. Wiring all seems right. Could there be another cause I can check?

    http://buildyourcnc.com/PrimeronHomingandLimitSwitches.aspx
    There is a pin setting in Mach3 that says how to react to the inputs from the switches. Your setting is probably wrong as the trigger happens immediately.

    You may want to think about shielded wire and/or a resistor on each limit switch line. If there are stray wires, connect them to ground. Additionally, the shield from the shielded cable insulation should alse connected to ground at both ends.
    Try upping the Debounce interval in Mach3. You have to adjust the debounce interval. You go to config,general config, and it is in the top right corner. I set mine to 100 and it seems to work well.

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    My limit switches keep tripping a reset. Wiring all seems right. Could there be another cause I can check?

  • MY LIMIT SWITCHES ARE TRIGGERING AT RANDOM.

    Are you using shielded wire? If so, take the shield to ground. If there are any other wires in the cable that is not being used, ground those as well. The customer can also try moving the cables as far away as possible from the motor wires and motors.

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    MY LIMIT SWITCHES ARE TRIGGERING AT RANDOM.

  • The limit switches keep triggering or erroring.

    Are you using shielded wire? If so, take the shield to ground. If there are any other wires in the cable that is not being used, ground those as well. The customer can also try moving the cables as far away as possible from the motor wires and motors.

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    The limit switches keep triggering or erroring.

  • The limit switches keep triggering or erroring.

    Your limit switch circuit is receiving too much interference from nearby equipment (stepping motors for example). Make sure to use shielded cable and the shielding, and any other wires or conductive material must be grounded. The limit switch circuit cables and wires must be as far as possible from motor wires.

    If all else fails, just use soft limits until a solution to the limit switch circuit can be determined.

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    The limit switches keep triggering or erroring.

  • PROBLEM WITH LIMIT SWITCHES TRIGGERING

    Are you using shielded wire? If so, take the shield to ground. If there are any other wires in the cable that is not being used, ground those as well. The customer can also try moving the cables as far away as possible from the motor wires and motors.

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  • How can I convert from Xylotex to yours, four axis with limit switches. Have parallel PC and steppers on machine.

    Sure, the USB interface has a place for 4 axes of limit switches.

    Each axis can have two limit switches: one for the ++ (positive) end and one for the -- (negative) end. The positive end would be the limit switch at the end of the machine that, say the machine has a 4'x8' area, reaches a bit after the 8 foot mark. The negative end would be the limit switch behind the 0 foot location behind the origin. If the origin is in the middle, the negative would be at a little more than the -4 foot end and the positive would be at a bit more than the +4 foot end. Note that you can have more than one switch on each pin where the NC is connected in serial fashion and the NO is connected in parallel fashion (this can be seen on the diagram in the multiple limits switch section). The software configurations for the limits switches are under File -> Settings -> Limit.

    A typical limit switch has three connections on it. These connections consist of COM (common), NC (normally closed) and NO (normally open). The COM would generally go to GND and the NC or the NO would go to the pin. If the NC is used, then the the switch is constantly connected until the switch is pushed (engaged) then the connection from the pin to gnd is broken (open). Use the settings in software to set whether in NC or NO configuration.

    Let me know if this information was helpful (or not) by adding information to this question. Thanks.

    User response:
    Thank you very much for this helpful information. I'm still a little fuzzy on how the 6 limit switches physically connect to each other and to the USB breakout board. You've stated one switch (home) goes to positive and another switch (limit) goes to negative. Are all the GND prongs from all 6 switches connected to each other and going to GND on the breakout board, or no? And the NC prongs, how exactly are they connected to each other? And to the board? There has to be a diagram somewhere shows this visually, no? I don't know how to wire the switches in series or in parallel. I have already physically installed all the switches on the machine and ran the wires to where the board is. Now I just need to know where to plug these wires into the board. Also, taking into consideration that I'm using the Planet CNC software, the only settings I have pertaining to limit switches is "Enable/Disable" for each axis, and the actual limit for each axis. Nothing about NC or NO. Is that only in Mach3?
    Thank you.

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    On the USB interface, the COM on the switch connects to GND and the NC or NO connects to the input pin (i.e. x++, y--, etc.)

    Limit switch configuration is rather difficult to understand, especially with series and parallel. You can think of series as a single wire going from GND to the axis letter input terminal (i.e. X++ or X--). If the wire is broken, then the circuit is open (or the switch is engaged in a normally closed scenario). Normally closed is like an actual wire, and when engaged, the switch "opens" (breaks the wire). This is why we recommend in some systems that you can put many switches in series on a single pin. When one of the switches is engaged (breaking the connection) then the entire circuit of switches is broken and the machine stops.

    In a parallel scenario, the state of the circuit is always broken until the one of the switches is engaged and the circuit is then closed or connected. The topology looks like a ladder. All the switches connect to both sides of the ladder and the switches are like the runs of the ladder (the horizontal bars that the feet are placed while climbing). Imagine all of the switches broken in this scenario (normally open). It would be like the ladder could be split in two, but if one of the ladder runs (switches) is closed by engaging it, then that run would connect both sides of the ladder and the two sides of the ladder would have a connection.

    There is a diagram on the USB page of the various limit switch configurations. If you need more information (visual and/or otherwise), please let us know and we will immediately add that information to benefit everyone.

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    How can I convert from Xylotex to yours, four axis with limit switches. Have parallel PC and steppers on machine.

  • THE SWITCHES KEEP TRIPPING! AT TIMES IT IS LITERALLY AS SOON CLICK RESET ON MACH 3 THEY TRIP AGAIN.

    http://buildyourcnc.com/PrimeronHomingandLimitSwitches.aspx
    There is a pin setting in Mach3 that says how to react to the inputs from the switches. Your setting is probably wrong as the trigger happens immediately.

    You may want to think about shielded wire and/or a resistor on each limit switch line. If there are stray wires, connect them to ground. Additionally, the shield from the shielded cable insulation should alse connected to ground at both ends.
    Try upping the Debounce interval in Mach3. You have to adjust the debounce interval. You go to config,general config, and it is in the top right corner. I set mine to 100 and it seems to work well.

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    THE SWITCHES KEEP TRIPPING! AT TIMES IT IS LITERALLY AS SOON CLICK RESET ON MACH 3 THEY TRIP AGAIN.

  • Limit switches connect to AWC708c laser controller

    If you are using the AWC708 or equivalent laser controller, the limit switches will connect between the EL input terminal and the GND terminal in normally open (NO) connection. Most limit switches can be connected as NO, or normally closed (NC).

    For instance, a limit switch for the X- limit will be connected from the ELX- terminal to the NO connection of the limit switch, then a connection from the GND terminal on the laser controller to the COM connection to the same limit switch.

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  • DO NEED LIMIT SWITCHES, IF SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

    Limit switches are not really needed for this level of a machine, but if you do want to use them, then you will need to connect them with shielded cable and ground the shield at both ends and any other non-used wire in the cable. Limit switches are very susceptible to the motor interference. You will also need to adjust the debounce in the software you will use.

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    DO NEED LIMIT SWITCHES, IF SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

  • How are limit switches connected to the AWC708 controller?

    If you are using the AWC708 or equivalent laser controller, the limit switches will connect between the EL input terminal and the GND terminal in normally open (NO) connection. Most limit switches can be connected as NO, or normally closed (NC).

    For instance, a limit switch for the X- limit will be connected from the ELX- terminal to the NO connection of the limit switch, then a connection from the GND terminal on the laser controller to the COM connection to the same limit switch.

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    How are limit switches connected to the AWC708 controller?

  • how to wire limit switches

    The parallel breakout board allows for 4 input connections. Each input connection can have an unlimited number of switches, but if you need to separate the switch circuit for, say, all of the home switches, you can use another input pin. There is no need to add another breakout board to add more switches unless you need to use the input pins for totally unique conditions that may or may not be related to CNC functions.

    Customer response:
    To Clarify: I need to set up 3 home switches which can double for limits (that's 3 pins.). Another pin for a probe. That's 4 pins used. Now I need to set up the other limit and E-stop switches. No pins left, how do I do that? Can a ground pin be doubled up on?

    Plus, I have a SuperPID. Another pin?

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    You can put all of your limit switches (including the E-stop which serves the same purpose as the limit switches) and home switches on a single pin. When homing, mach3 will move the axis it wants to home, hit the switch, pull away from the switch, then move the next axis and repeat the steps for the next two axes.

    The probe is on the 2nd pin. The SuperPID is on the 3rd pin and now you have another pin remaining.

    The GND terminal can be doubled up.

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    how about a diagram to reference showing the pin-out to use

    Here is the diagram for the parallel breakout board (pins 10 through 13 are used for input):

    The circuit is from the GND to the input

    Here is the diagram for the Mach3 USB board (pins I1 through I4 are used for input):
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/Documents/Electric%20Wiring%20Diagram.pdf
    The circuit is from the V- to the input pin

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  • wiring limit switches in series NC to the V5 Break Out Board

    When wiring limit switches to the breakout board, generally NC (Normally Closed) are connected in series (acts like a wire that when broken, breaks the circuit). NO (Normally Open) is generally wired in parallel where if one is pressed, the wire creates a circuit connecting the pin to gnd.

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    wiring limit switches in series NC to the V5 Break Out Board

  • BlackFoot CNC: Where should z-axis limit switches be placed?

    The limit switch for the z-axis should be placed in a location where nothing can interfere with CNC process, now for our blackFoot, referring to step 115(https://www.buildyourcnc.com/blackFoot48v40.aspx#prettyPhoto/120/) it will be placed 1-1/4"(may be adjusted) down from the top wood piece(vacuum holder). So contact will be made from the location of the anti-backlash nut wood piece and the limit switch stopping it from going to high.

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    BlackFoot CNC: Where should z-axis limit switches be placed?

  • How should I connect the limit switches to my laser controller?

    If you are using the AWC708 or equivalent laser controller, the limit switches will connect between the EL input terminal and the GND terminal in normally open (NO) connection. Most limit switches can be connected as NO, or normally closed (NC).

    For instance, a limit switch for the X- limit will be connected from the ELX- terminal to the NO connection of the limit switch, then a connection from the GND terminal on the laser controller to the COM connection to the same limit switch.

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    How should I connect the limit switches to my laser controller?

  • Can you provide recommended locations for limit switches on your kits?

    Here are the recommended locations for limit switches for our CNC machine kits.

    The x-axis limit switches should be located on a single gantry. This makes the wiring of the limit switches close in proximity and more manageable.
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6367-800.JPG

    The y-axis limit switches should be located at each end of the gantry. This keeps the switches stationary and impose minimal movement of the wire for better wire management.

    One end of he gantry:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6361-800.JPG

    Other end of the gantry:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6360-800.JPG

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    Can you provide recommended locations for limit switches on your kits?

  • Are there any videos detailing wiring of limit switches and stop button?

    This video may serve helpful on the homing and limit switches:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/PrimeronHomingandLimitSwitches.aspx

    I don't go into great detail on the wiring, however. If after you watch that video and you still need a video, please let me know and I will make a video on the wiring of limit switches and the E-stop button.

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    Are there any videos detailing wiring of limit switches and stop button?

  • What is the wiring configuration for limit switches on the laser controller?

    If you are using the AWC708 or equivalent laser controller, the limit switches will connect between the EL input terminal and the GND terminal in normally open (NO) connection. Most limit switches can be connected as NO, or normally closed (NC).

    For instance, a limit switch for the X- limit will be connected from the ELX- terminal to the NO connection of the limit switch, then a connection from the GND terminal on the laser controller to the COM connection to the same limit switch.

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    What is the wiring configuration for limit switches on the laser controller?

  • Were are the mounting locattions of the 6 Limit switches on the Blackfoot 4.3

    Here are the recommended locations for limit switches for our CNC machine kits.

    The x-axis limit switches should be located on a single gantry. This makes the wiring of the limit switches close in proximity and more manageable.
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6367-800.JPG

    The y-axis limit switches should be located at each end of the gantry. This keeps the switches stationary and impose minimal movement of the wire for better wire management.

    One end of he gantry:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6361-800.JPG

    Other end of the gantry:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/images/IMG_6360-800.JPG

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    Were are the mounting locattions of the 6 Limit switches on the Blackfoot 4.3

  • Can you tell me what gauge wire is needed for limits switches and the spindle?

    The hookup wires you will need is 22 to 24 AWG stranded and shielded for the wiring of the limit switches and E_Stop. Our kit customers select various places for these switches, so we don't supply the wiring. If you don't use shielded cable, you will need to change the debounce setting in Mach3 (if that is the control program you are using).

    We typically use 14 AWG stranded wire for the VFD to Spindle (U, V, W) connections.

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    Can you tell me what gauge wire is needed for limits switches and the spindle?

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