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Question: What is the acceleration limited to with the laser tube vertical?

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With our new Laser/Spindle Combo Head for our greenBull, we kept the acceleration the same and had no issues at all with the tube (regarding chipping breaking etc.). So there is no specific limit to the machine (take into affect the weight of your gantry and the overall output of your motors), but here is the setup we have now:
(with a custom greenBull gantry (4' x 8'))
X-axis
SPI: 910.069
Vel: 400.02
Acc: 12
Y-Axis
SPI: 911.023
Vel: 400.02
Acc: 18
Z-Axis
SPI: 1632.653
Vel: 79.98
Acc: 5

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    1. Use a 5 Gallon resovoir system which gives you a fairly large space of water to heat up before you need to tend to it. Add about a cup of anti-freeze to the mix of DISTILLED water. You don't want ANY minerals in the water that might build up in your system. The anti-freeze works to keep algae and other ickies from growing in your water.

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