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Question #: 437

Question: DOES THE SPINDLE RUN ON A 50HZ POWER SOURCE?

Current Solution

The spindle inverter (VFD) will run on a 220V (or between 170V-250V) power source with either 50Hz or 60Hz.

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  • What is the Greenbull average power consumption in conjunction with 2.2KW spindle?

    You can determine you overall CNC machine current consumption be adding your spindle power plus your CNC motion power and the power that your computer requires.

    the formula to understand the current of each component is watts = volts x current, or W = V * I, or with some algebra, Current (I) = Watts (W) / Volts (V)

    For example:

    Spindle:
    The 2.2 kW = 2200 watts and you can find the current by taking the input voltage of 220 volt and get the current using the above formula: 2200 W / 220 V = 10 A (Amps)

    CNC motion electronics:
    The power supply that comes with our machines is generally 8.8 A

    Computer:
    The computer that you use to control the CNC machine will have a specific wattage. Let's say the watts is 500: 500 W / 110 V = 4.5 A

    Add them up: 10 A + 8.8 A + 4.5 A = 23.3 Amps

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    What is the Greenbull average power consumption in conjunction with 2.2KW spindle?

  • What settings does I use for controlling the spindle in StepCon/Linuxcnc?

    LinuxCNC has excellent documents; however, I would like to offer our help in case you don't understand the information on that page. So, please use this FAQ (Question #: 13233) to state your questions by submitting additional information below.

    The LinuxCNC spindle control page is found here: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/spindle.html

    Additional Information:
    After reading the LinuxCNC page my first questions would be can the spindle be controlled by PWM signal? Also, what pin on the parallel port would I set to Spindle Enable and FRW?

    Additional Information:
    To connect your computer to the VFD, use a USB to RS-485 interface. RS-485 is just a serial interface protocol that uses standard 0 to +5 voltage TTL signal levels for communication (as opposed to RS-232 which uses -12v and +12 for signal level changes).

    Get a high quality interface to reduce any issues during the process. The VFD should have two terminals labeled RS+ and RS-. The USB to RS-485 adapter should have this labeled on it as well so the connections should be relatively straight forward.

    In the VFD parameters:
    PD001: 2 to accept RS485 commands
    PD002: 2 to accept frequency comands
    PD163: 1 to RS485 slave address:1
    PD164: 1 RS485 baud rate 9600
    PD165: 3 8bit, no parity, 1 stop bit

    Make sure LinuxCNC is also set accordingly:

    The PIN14 and PIN16 in the stepconf wizard should be set to unused because you don't want LinuxCNC to be outputting unnecessary signals.

    In the options step of the stepconf wizard:
    - Check the Include Halui user interface component.
    - Check the Include custom PyVCP GUI panel.
    - Check Spindle speed display

    You will want to edit the custom.hal text file located in the folder that was created from the stepconf wizard. Add these following lines:
    loadusr -Wn vfd hy_vfd -n vfd -d /dev/ttyUSB0 -p none -r 9600
    net spindle-cmd-rpm-abs => vfd.speed-command
    net spindle-cw motion.spindle-forward => vfd.spindle-forward
    net spindle-ccw motion.spindle-reverse => vfd.spindle-reverse
    net on motion.spindle-on => vfd.spindle-on

    The dev folder in linux is typically used for interfacing devices and peripherals to the computer as these devices are communicated by simple memory addresses and these files are linked directly to these addresses.

    Under the custom_postgui.hal file, change this line:

    from: sets spindle-at-speed true
    to: net spindle-at-speed => cfd.spindle_at_speed

    and add the line:

    setp vfd.enable 1

    When you start LinuxCNC, you will a spindle section with the reverse and forward buttons, a stop button and - and + buttons. Use these buttons to conform that the spindle is functioning properly. The spindle speed indicator in LinuxCNC will show the spindle speed and you can confirm that this is equal to the speed indicated on the VFD.


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    Additional information was also added by us to provide a better understanding.

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    What settings does I use for controlling the spindle in StepCon/Linuxcnc?

  • What is the maximum runout on your water-cooled spindles?

    TIR specifications for the ER-20 collet used on 2.2KW Spindles is .0004 inches.

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    What is the maximum runout on your water-cooled spindles?

  • What is the runout on the 2.5 KW spindle and how many bearings?

    The runout on our 2.2kW spindle and number of bearings are:
    Radial runout: 0.01mm - 0.000393701 inches, 3 Bearings

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    What is the runout on the 2.5 KW spindle and how many bearings?

  • The spindle drops on our greenBull when power is turned off. How do we stop this?

    When you say the spindle drops, are you referring to the z-axis assembly that contains the spindle? If so, did you replace the lead screw and anti-backlash nut with a ball screw? Ball screws have extremely little friction and will cause an assembly under gravity to move down. If not, your lead screw and anti-backlash nut friction is extremely small, which is surprising and I have never seen this before. I would be interested in seeing a picture of the assembly. Please send a picture to techsupport@buildyourcnc.com so I can investigate this issue further.

    Additional Information:
    We haven't replaced or disassembled anything on the z-axis. I will try to get some photos sent to you. Are there any adjustments or recommendations for PM of the z-axis assembly?

    Additional Information:
    Can you tell me what PM means?

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    The spindle drops on our greenBull when power is turned off. How do we stop this?

  • Good morning, I would like to know if the strength of the 2.2kw spindle is weaker when using the 110V version of the VFD. Does it have the same power as the 220V version VFD?

    The 2.2kW spindle will have the same amount of torque and strength using either the 110V or the 220V inverter. Nothing will significantly change in either application since the 110V inverter has a small step up transformer which will increase the voltage from 110V to 220V to run the spindle efficiently.

    Additional Information:
    I'd like confirmation on this -- isn't there a cost in efficiency to having the 110v step up to 220v?

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    Good morning, I would like to know if the strength of the 2.2kw spindle is weaker when using the 110V version of the VFD. Does it have the same power as the 220V version VFD?

  • how much does the 2.2kW spindle and the VFD weigh together?

    The weight of the 2.2kW spindle without the VFD (variable frequency drive or inverter) is 11 lbs or 5 kg.

    The 2.2kW spindle with the VFD is 15 lbs or 6.8 kg.

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    how much does the 2.2kW spindle and the VFD weigh together?

  • how much does the 2.2kW spindle weigh?

    The weight of the 2.2kW spindle without the VFD (variable frequency drive or inverter) is 11 lbs or 5 kg.

    The 2.2kW spindle with the VFD is 15 lbs or 6.8 kg.

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    how much does the 2.2kW spindle weigh?

  • What size water tubing fits on the spindle?

    The spindle water inlet and outlet fittings are 1/4 Inside Diameter and 3/8 Outside Diameter.

    You can find the silicone tubes here:
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-silicone-tubing

    This fitting will connect to the pump (1/2" male to 1/4" female):
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-Tube-Fitting-Female-to-Male

    And this fitting will provide a reduced barbed size (1/4") for the tube:
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-Tube-Fitting-Barbed-to-Male

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    What size water tubing fits on the spindle?

  • can you tell me the dimensions of the spindles

    You can find 2.2 kW spindle dimensions on the spindle product page.

    Additional Information:

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  • What is the warranty on your 2.2KW spindle

    We honor a one year warranty on most parts like main machine components, structural parts, mechanical parts and some electronic parts including spindles.

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    What is the warranty on your 2.2KW spindle

  • Can LinuxCNC EMC2 control the spindle?

    LinuxCNC has excellent documents; however, I would like to offer our help in case you don't understand the information on that page. So, please use this FAQ (Question #: 13233) to state your questions by submitting additional information below.

    The LinuxCNC spindle control page is found here: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/spindle.html

    Additional Information:
    After reading the LinuxCNC page my first questions would be can the spindle be controlled by PWM signal? Also, what pin on the parallel port would I set to Spindle Enable and FRW?

    Additional Information:
    To connect your computer to the VFD, use a USB to RS-485 interface. RS-485 is just a serial interface protocol that uses standard 0 to +5 voltage TTL signal levels for communication (as opposed to RS-232 which uses -12v and +12 for signal level changes).

    Get a high quality interface to reduce any issues during the process. The VFD should have two terminals labeled RS+ and RS-. The USB to RS-485 adapter should have this labeled on it as well so the connections should be relatively straight forward.

    In the VFD parameters:
    PD001: 2 to accept RS485 commands
    PD002: 2 to accept frequency comands
    PD163: 1 to RS485 slave address:1
    PD164: 1 RS485 baud rate 9600
    PD165: 3 8bit, no parity, 1 stop bit

    Make sure LinuxCNC is also set accordingly:

    The PIN14 and PIN16 in the stepconf wizard should be set to unused because you don't want LinuxCNC to be outputting unnecessary signals.

    In the options step of the stepconf wizard:
    - Check the Include Halui user interface component.
    - Check the Include custom PyVCP GUI panel.
    - Check Spindle speed display

    You will want to edit the custom.hal text file located in the folder that was created from the stepconf wizard. Add these following lines:
    loadusr -Wn vfd hy_vfd -n vfd -d /dev/ttyUSB0 -p none -r 9600
    net spindle-cmd-rpm-abs => vfd.speed-command
    net spindle-cw motion.spindle-forward => vfd.spindle-forward
    net spindle-ccw motion.spindle-reverse => vfd.spindle-reverse
    net on motion.spindle-on => vfd.spindle-on

    The dev folder in linux is typically used for interfacing devices and peripherals to the computer as these devices are communicated by simple memory addresses and these files are linked directly to these addresses.

    Under the custom_postgui.hal file, change this line:

    from: sets spindle-at-speed true
    to: net spindle-at-speed => cfd.spindle_at_speed

    and add the line:

    setp vfd.enable 1

    When you start LinuxCNC, you will a spindle section with the reverse and forward buttons, a stop button and - and + buttons. Use these buttons to conform that the spindle is functioning properly. The spindle speed indicator in LinuxCNC will show the spindle speed and you can confirm that this is equal to the speed indicated on the VFD.


    Credit for this helpful information goes to:


    Additional information was also added by us to provide a better understanding.

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    Can LinuxCNC EMC2 control the spindle?

  • Hi, I'm considering buying one of your 2.2 KW water cooled spindles. What is these spindles run out ?

    TIR specifications for the ER-20 collet used on 2.2KW Spindles is .0004 inches.

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    Hi, I'm considering buying one of your 2.2 KW water cooled spindles. What is these spindles run out ?

  • Does the 2.2kW 220V Spindle need Euro/AUS-style 240V power (1 hot, 1 neutral, 1 ground) or do North American 220V style welding plugs (2 hots, 1 ground) also work? Thx!

    Our 1.5/2.2kW spindle will work with both setups, in our wiring diagram it is more seen as the Euro/AUS-style, however you can do the same thing with the North American style as well. Also depending on if you have single or three phase 220V, you can use pins R, S, T. A manual will arrive in the VFD box, which will have further information and diagrams.

    Please seek a certified electrician if you are unsure of any aspect in wiring the spindle or VFD, since wiring to main lines will require wiring of the plug and main lines to the inverter and to avoid any damage or injury's while installing the 1.5/2.2kW spindle and VFD combo.

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    Does the 2.2kW 220V Spindle need Euro/AUS-style 240V power (1 hot, 1 neutral, 1 ground) or do North American 220V style welding plugs (2 hots, 1 ground) also work? Thx!

  • How to connect the spindle VFD to RS-485 serial modbus

    It is possible to connect and configure the spindle VFD to the mach3 via an RS485 communication and protocol.

    The first thing you will need is the dynamic link library to pair with mach3 called the Huanyang VFD Mach3 PlugIn. You can find this file at the mach3 support forum here: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,14182.0.html

    You will also need to download the Microsoft .net 3.5 framework and install it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

    Follow the pdf that comes with the library file, but here is a synopsis of what you need to do (I also added a lot more information that may be useful during this process as the manual does not cover the main connections that need to be done):

    You will need to program your VFD so that it knows how to communicate with mach3 and the computer (go into the programming mode of the VFD and change these parameters):
    - PD001 - value 2 - Enables with communication aspect of the VFD
    - PD002 - value 2 - Enables frequency control from the communcations port
    - PD163 - value 1 - VFD address
    - PD164 - value 1 - Baud rate of 9600 (speed of the communication)
    - PD165 - value 3 - 8N1 RTU - 8 bits (that's the size of the word that gets communicated), N (No parity or no error checking) and 1 (1 stop bit)

    Copy the dll file to the PlugIns folder of mach3.

    Connect the RX and TX lines to your computer. There are a couple ways you can do this, but the recommended way would be to use an FTDI USB device which converts a USB to a serial com port. The device will have Rx and Tx connectors to connect to the VFD terminals with the same labels. This method is recommended since serial ports are not as common in computers these days.

    Next, you will need to configure mach3 to use the plugin library. Start mach3 and click on Menu -> config ->Config Plugins. Enable the new plugin by clicking on the red cross on the left column next to the plug in. Restart mach3 after doing this.

    No you need to configure mach3 to use the HuanyangVFD plugin. Go to the ports & pins configuration and select the spindle setup tab. Make sure that the Disable Spindle Relays checkbox is unchecked. We don't want mach3 to output a signal for a relay since the spindle will start up and turn off within the VFD and not from an external relay.

    Next, go to the HuanyangVFD settings by clicking on Menu -> plugin control -> HuanyangVFD. Set the parameters to the same settings you put into the VFD programming. The com port will be shown as new hardward when you plug in the USB FTDI device. A little bubble will be displayed at the bottom right where it will notify you that a new device is being installed (be patient while windows assigns a com port). Alternatively, you can use the windows device manager to see which port was set for the new USB FTDI device). You may need to restart mach3 several times until you get the correct information displayed in the PD001 and PD002 fields. When the com port is correct and the other parameters, like baud and VFD address is the same as you entered in the programming, then the PD001 and PD002 will show the number 2, otherwise, a 99 will appear which means that communication was not successful.

    You can now control the on/off and RPM of the spindle using the RS485 communication between mach3 and the VFD.

    Additional Information:
    Will this work with the brand called "best "vfd as well.

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  • I have a water cooled spindle I only need the VFD drive. Does the VFD come with instrutction on hooking the VFD to Mach3?

    The VFD does come with a manual that details the wiring and connection specifications, terminal features and a list of the parameters. There is no information on how to connect it to Mach3. It does detail the specifications within the parameters and terminal features on the analog input that is used with Mach3 and other control programs.

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    I have a water cooled spindle I only need the VFD drive. Does the VFD come with instrutction on hooking the VFD to Mach3?

  • I am interested in buying the water cooled 2.2 KW spindle for $339, how much does it weigh?

    The weight of the 2.2kW spindle without the VFD (variable frequency drive or inverter) is 11 lbs or 5 kg.

    The 2.2kW spindle with the VFD is 15 lbs or 6.8 kg.

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  • WHAT ARE THE OUTPUT INVERTER (VFD) CONNECTIONS TO SPINDLE?

    U - Pin1
    V - Pin2
    W - Pin3
    Pin4 Dead

    Additional Information:
    My home made cnc is a big problem with my NC connection. When in start my spindle it will be gone wrong. It will be limith switch problem anytime. Need help thanks.

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    WHAT ARE THE OUTPUT INVERTER (VFD) CONNECTIONS TO SPINDLE?

  • Is the 4kv spindle constructed using two or four bearings?

    We are posing that question with the supplier. The information will be provided shortly.

    Additional Information:
    The 4.0 kW spindle has 4 bearings. Tow of them are 7005C and the other two are 7003C

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    Is the 4kv spindle constructed using two or four bearings?