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Question: how to identify spindle? 1.5 or 2.2 my spindle has er20 collets,220 colt. black vfd

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A 1.5kW spindle will have ER11 (ER-11) collets. A 2.2kW spindle will use ER20 (ER-20) collets which can have bores for shanks up to 13mm or 1/2".

Both spindles typically have an 80mm body diameter. 2.2kW can have a larger diameter from some manufacturers.

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  • how do you wire the 2.2kw spindle and vfd for 110 single phase

    You can find the wiring diagram for the 2.2kW spindle and, follow through instructions here.
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-novfd#prettyPhoto/8/

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    wiring diagram at spindle top


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    how do you wire the 2.2kw spindle and vfd for 110 single phase

  • What length of wire do you recommend for the black toe (2'x4') between the spindle and VFD?

    The length of the cable from the VFD (Variable Frequency Drive) to the actual spindle should be about the same as the z-axis cable from the z-axis motor to the z-axis driver which is recommended at 11 feet. This is locating the VFD about at the midpoint of the machine.

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    What length of wire do you recommend for the black toe (2'x4') between the spindle and VFD?

  • Do you have wood holders for switching my Black Toe from router to spindle?

    You will need a Z-axis mount for Spindle if you are currently using a router.

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    Do you have wood holders for switching my Black Toe from router to spindle?

  • I just purchased some wire for my 2.2 spindle as per your recommendation it's 14 AWG stranded wire for the VFD to Spindle (U, V, W) connections. However, it's a three wire (black, white and Ground). Which numbers on the female pin connector do I connect the wires to. Cheers.
  • I HAVE BLACKTOE 4.1 WITH PORTER CABLE 890 ROUTER.TO CONVERT TO SPINDLE(2.2KW) CAN JUST CHANGE THE MOUNT?

    If you would like to use a spindle rather than a router on your existing CNC, we will send you another set of components that will allow the spindle to be mounted properly which includes the z-axis rails, rail support, spindle mounts and the dust shoe components. You can find this item to purchase here: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/category/z-axis

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    I HAVE BLACKTOE 4.1 WITH PORTER CABLE 890 ROUTER.TO CONVERT TO SPINDLE(2.2KW) CAN JUST CHANGE THE MOUNT?

  • I have blacktoe 4.1 with porter cable 890 router.To convert to spindle(2.2kw) can I just change the mount?

    If you would like to use a spindle rather than a router on your existing CNC, we will send you another set of components that will allow the spindle to be mounted properly which includes the z-axis rails, rail support, spindle mounts and the dust shoe components. You can find this item to purchase here: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/category/z-axis

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    I have blacktoe 4.1 with porter cable 890 router.To convert to spindle(2.2kw) can I just change the mount?

  • Interested in the 110v 1.5kw spindle and vfd. Need an er16, or preferably an er20 collett. Would this item work.

    Currently in our current stock the collet that work with our 1.5kW spindle 110V/220V, will be the ER-11. Only the 2.2kW spindle uses the ER-20 collet.

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    Interested in the 110v 1.5kw spindle and vfd. Need an er16, or preferably an er20 collett. Would this item work.

  • How to display RPM instead of frequency on the VFD? I have the 2.2kv 110 volt spindle and inverter.

    There is a button on the front of the VFD that will cycle through RPM, Freq, and a few other readings. If there is a >> button on your VFD, that will work. If there is a mode button on your VFD, that should works as well.

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    There is a >> disc button but it does not cycle through the display modes.

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    Is there a parameter setting to make this button work to cycle thru the display modes?

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    setting the starting rpm

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    the vfd will not start the motor

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    Any progress on this? I have the same issue.

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    What model is your VFD?

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    Mine is a YL620-G-5.5Kw

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    That model will not be able to show RPM. You will be able to show the frequency, which can be used to determine the RPM. RPM equals the Frequency x 60.

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    There is an Icon for RPM at the top of the display I cannot cycle through the different options to see the RPM

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    At the top of my control panel is has 6 different lights which indicate what your seeing. in order from left to right they are COM, ALM, DISP, RUN, Hz, RPM I have seen the ALM light up on initial set up but that was fixes with a parameter change. The run light shows up when i turn the spindle on and and it is running. I am however not able to get any of the other lights to show or to get the RPMs to display

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    If you do see an RPM light on the display, that panel sticker may be a sticker used for many types of VFDs and the RPM is not used. There is parameter: P00.24 which allows you to pick what to display. The choices a
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    0: Display current target frequency. This will display your knobs, potentiometer, setting, not the actual spindle frequency.
    1: Display electric machinery run frequency. This will display the actual frequency that the VFD is currently sending to the spindle.
    2: Display electric machinery run current: this will display the current the spindle is currently drawing.
    3: Display input AC voltage. Self explanatory.
    4: Display mother line voltage. This will display the actual voltage at the input.
    5: Display output voltage. This will display the voltage at the UVW terminals for the spindle.
    6: Display speed paragraph number SPx. I believe this displays which frequency is being selected (P07.00 to P07.07, or 1 to 8 respectively).
    7: Display inverter temperature. This is the temp of the VFD, self explanatory.
    8: Display input signal X1-X3/output signal. This simply shows the inputs/outputs associated with the external terminals.
    9: Display user variable. This one I have not delved into, so it may be something to look into.
    10: Display user count value. Same, this one could be useful.
    11: Display temporary debugging variable. Haven't tried this one, so I can't inform of any useful information but it won't pertain to this subject anyway.
    12: Display automatic multisegment run step and time. I haven't delved into this one either, but it won't show RPM.

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    How to display RPM instead of frequency on the VFD? I have the 2.2kv 110 volt spindle and inverter.

  • 1.5 kilowatt Variable Frequency Drive (VFD or Inverter) settings to operate spindle

    If you purchased the spindle from us, you should have received a little booklet that shows all of the program settings. If you did not receive that booklet, please call us so we can send you this booklet.

    If you have the booklet, please let us know specifically what setting you would like to set and we can help.

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    1.5 kilowatt Variable Frequency Drive (VFD or Inverter) settings to operate spindle

  • Can you provide setting for the VFD setting for 110v US, 1.5kw 220v spindle?

    The configuration settings for our VFD's are these: VFD Setup:
    Change PD001 to '0' (source of run commands)
    Change PD003 to 300 (main frequency - Hz)
    Change PD004 to 300 (base frequency - Hz)
    Change PD005 to 400 (max operating frequency - Hz)
    Change PD006 to 2.5 (intermediate frequency - Hz)
    Change PD008 to 220 (max voltage - V)
    Change PD009 to 15 (intermediate voltage - V)
    Change PD010 to 8 (minimum voltage - V)
    Change PD011 to 100 (frequency lower limit - Hz)
    Change PD142 to 7 (rated motor current - Amps)
    Change PD143 to 2 (motor pole number)
    Change PD144 to 3000 (rated motor revolution)
    For further info please refer to (https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-novfd#prettyPhoto) for wiring and other specifications.

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    Can you provide setting for the VFD setting for 110v US, 1.5kw 220v spindle?

  • how much does the 2.2kW spindle and the VFD weigh together?

    The weight of the 2.2kW spindle without the VFD (variable frequency drive or inverter) is 11 lbs or 5 kg.

    The 2.2kW spindle with the VFD is 15 lbs or 6.8 kg.

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    how much does the 2.2kW spindle and the VFD weigh together?

  • How should I control a plasma torch, spindle and a laser on my CNC machine?

    It will depend on how you configure the machine to use the Laser and plasma. Is the laser on a separate gantry? That will determine the way you will connect the laser control system or if you use a typical CNC controller. The plasma will need inputs of THC on, THC up, THC down and outputs to trigger the plasma torch. I recommend the Pokeys57CNC for the plasma and you can also fire the laser with it, but you will not be able to do engraving with the laser unless you use a laser controller. If you use a laser controller, you will need to either build circuitry to switch the digital signals from which controller you will be using, or if you have the laser on a separate gantry, you can use a traditional laser controller connected to the stepper motor drivers on that gantry.

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    I was planing on using same gantry, and installing plasma and laser module on z axis along the side with current router. Perhaps if it’s needed installing another z axis on current z axis. So that when I use plasma, router z will be homed and plasma z axis will be able to utilize thc.

    When you say “If you use a laser controller, you will need to either build circuitry to switch the digital signals from which controller you will be using,”
    If i install laser controller, pokeys and router motion card, do you mean all ( axis and router/laser/plasma) signals or just the one that controls router/laser/plasma?
    I was wondering if I could jump (parallel connect) axis signals from card to card without ?
    Also do you prefer ethernet card or usb?
    I really do appreciate your help :) thanx again.

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    Not a problem at all.

    Remember that with all of that weight on the z-axis, you will not be able to do efficient raster style engraving.

    By putting the laser on another gantry, say at the far end of the table, then you would be able to use a laser controller that controls its own stepper motors and the nozzle can have fast swing motion for engraving. With the laser on the z-axis of the spindle (like see on the greenBull), you will only be able to do vector motions for the laser.

    You can also have a CNC interface and laser controller controlling the same stepper motor drivers, but you will need a few tri-state buffer chips where you can use a toggle switch for which controller has control of the drivers.

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    How should I control a plasma torch, spindle and a laser on my CNC machine?

  • I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

    We will have to replace the motor mounts that the router currently is mounted to. The process is easy we will need to communicate, through our email or over the phone.
    @:customerservice@gmail.com
    #:281-851-7701

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    I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

  • I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

    If you would like to use a spindle rather than a router on your existing CNC, we will send you another set of components that will allow the spindle to be mounted properly which includes the z-axis rails, rail support, spindle mounts and the dust shoe components. You can find this item to purchase here: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/category/z-axis

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    I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

  • Do I need Z axis mount for spindle? I currently have router cnc blacktoe

    You will need a Z-axis mount for Spindle if you are currently using a router.

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    Do I need Z axis mount for spindle? I currently have router cnc blacktoe

  • Can you custimize the 2'x4' CNC Machine Kit (blackToe v4.1) w/ 2.2kW Spindle into a 2'x3' Machine Kit?

    Yes, that is not a problem at all. Give us a call.

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    Can you custimize the 2'x4' CNC Machine Kit (blackToe v4.1) w/ 2.2kW Spindle into a 2'x3' Machine Kit?

  • I am missing the wiring information for the 1.5kw spindle, my electrician says I need documentation for the 4 prong connector into the VFD

    You can find wiring diagrams and illustrations for the spindle on this page: https://buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-novfd

    This information pertains to the 2.2 kW spindle; however, the wiring is the same for the other spindles as well.

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    I am missing the wiring information for the 1.5kw spindle, my electrician says I need documentation for the 4 prong connector into the VFD

  • My VFD/inverter is showing an er.04 er 04 on the display when the spindle starts spinning

    The Er.04 (if you are using the YL VFD), generally refers to the ramping up and ramping down of the spindle, but it can be a result of a short circuit between the VFD and the spindle. You can increase the time the spindle accelerates (ramps up to the set rpm/frequency).

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    My VFD/inverter is showing an er.04 er 04 on the display when the spindle starts spinning

  • Transaction EQEPB4915043, My 2.2Kw Spindle and Inverter showed up without any manual or instructions. Can you provide a manual? Thank you

    The spindle does not come with a manual, however the inverter should come with a manual booklet in the box. The wiring diagram and PD settings for the inverter and spindle (https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-novfd) can be view together on the spindle page, also you can use a local hardware store extension cord (orange) to connect/wire from your outlet(220V) to your inverter and spindle accordingly from the diagram.

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    I also received a spindle and inverter without a manual. While the diagrams on the product page were sufficient to get the unit running, there is no documentation anywhere to be found concerning the terminal block that is used for external control. What does one have to do to get a hold of the manual that was supposed to come with the inverter? Manuals for the 220VAC model are plentiful online; however, manuals for the 110VAC model are non-existent.

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    Transaction EQEPB4915043, My 2.2Kw Spindle and Inverter showed up without any manual or instructions. Can you provide a manual? Thank you

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