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Question #: 9052

Question: Do you have any recomended motor tuning speeds for the black toe

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These are the recommended initial motor tuning settings for the blackToe:

X-axis
“CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
Set to 1/16 Microstep, 2.7A
Dipswitches: 11001100
Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1422.22 steps/in

Y-axis
“CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
Set to 1/16 Microstep, 2.7A
Dipswitches: 11001100
Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1422.22 steps/in

Z-axis
“CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
Set to 1/4 Microstep, 2.7A
Dipswitches: 10101100
Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1600 steps/in

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  • My question about motor tuning for the blacktoe in Mach 3 was for the aceleration and velocity settings what are the recomended settings

    In the customer service live, just enter "motor tuning" and it will give you a list of all the recommended or default settings for our machines. However the acceleration and velocity for the greenBull(other machines) will be an actual determination on your trials. You will want the highest possible acceleration and velocity without the motors stalling, so you can do increments of ten to be on the safe side, if it is too slow try increments of 25.

    The steps per inch is dependent on the microstepping:
    Steps/Inch for the x and y
    Steps = 200 motor steps per revolution x 16 microsteps = 3200 steps
    Inches = sprocket number of teeth x pitch of the sprocket = 14 x .25" = 3.5 inches
    steps/inch = 3200 / 3.5 = 914.28
    This is really a starting point. You will then need to use the mach3 calibration function to get the perfect steps/inch value. Use as long a measurement as possible when calibrating.

    Velocity:
    Start with a value of 1000 ipm. Increase this value with a relatively low acceleration at about 10. You will notice at a particular velocity that it will stall. This is your stall velocity. I would take the stall velocity and reduce it by about 30% to 50% which should give you a good final safe velocity.

    Acceleration:
    Once the velocity is found, raise the acceleration until it start to stall at a low velocity. Reduce the acceleration by about the same percentage to stick with a safe acceleration.

    The acceleration is mostly dependent on torque (current) and the top speed is dependent on the amount of voltage.

    Give some tests with all of the axes running at the same time. If you notice and stalling, reduce velocities and acceleration depending on when the stall happens (top end, or acceleration curve).


    X-axis
    “CW8060 (6.0A) Driver”
    Set to 5.43A, 1/16 Microstep
    Dipswitches: 01100110 (“0”=down, “1”=up)
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 914.29 steps/in
    Y-axis
    “CW8060 (6.0A) Driver”
    Set to 5.43A, 1/16 Microstep
    Dipswitches: 01100110
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 914.29 steps/in
    Z-axis
    “CW8060 (6.0A) Driver”
    Set to 5.43A, 1/4 Microstep
    Dipswitches: 01100100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1600 steps/in

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    My question about motor tuning for the blacktoe in Mach 3 was for the aceleration and velocity settings what are the recomended settings

  • Looking for motor tuning speeds for mach 3 black toe

    These are the recommended initial motor tuning settings for the blackToe:

    X-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/16 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 11001100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1422.22 steps/in

    Y-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/16 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 11001100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1422.22 steps/in

    Z-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/4 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 10101100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1600 steps/in

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    Looking for motor tuning speeds for mach 3 black toe

  • Does Mach3USB have a selection for motor tuning, if so, where, the selection in the config menu doesn't work

    The motor tuning for any controller under Mach3 is independent of the actual controller. It is actually a function of the steps per unit and setting the velocity which is units/minute and acceleration which is units/minute/minute.

    To adjust the velocity, acceleration and steps/unit, click on config -> motor tuning.

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    Does Mach3USB have a selection for motor tuning, if so, where, the selection in the config menu doesn't work

  • Does Mach3USB have a selection for motor tuning, if so, where, the selection in the config menu doesn't work

    The motor tuning for any controller under Mach3 is independent of the actual controller. It is actually a function of the steps per unit and setting the velocity which is units/minute and acceleration which is units/minute/minute.

    To adjust the velocity, acceleration and steps/unit, click on config -> motor tuning.

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    Does Mach3USB have a selection for motor tuning, if so, where, the selection in the config menu doesn't work

  • Do you have a laser system that works with the 4.1 blacktoe system?

    We do not currently offer a laser kit specifically for the blackToe, however we do offer a combination spindle/laser tube mount for our greenBull machine here: https://buildyourcnc.com/item/cnc-machine-laser-spindle-combo-head. You could probably modify that mount to suit your needs, or you can contact us directly to discuss a custom mount. We also offer all the additional equipment needed to begin lasing -- tube, power supply, mirrors, etc.

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    Do you have a laser system that works with the 4.1 blacktoe system?

  • motor tuning for black toe

    These are the recommended initial motor tuning settings for the blackToe:

    X-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/16 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 11001100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1422.22 steps/in

    Y-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/16 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 11001100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1422.22 steps/in

    Z-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/4 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 10101100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1600 steps/in

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    motor tuning for black toe

  • Do you have wood holders for switching my Black Toe from router to spindle?

    You will need a Z-axis mount for Spindle if you are currently using a router.

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    Do you have wood holders for switching my Black Toe from router to spindle?

  • Do you have a set of instructions specifically for the blacktooth/parallel setup?

    The blacktooth page shows instructions for both USB and parallel interfaces. If you need further assistance with anything please contact customerservice@buildyourcnc.com

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    Do you have a set of instructions specifically for the blacktooth/parallel setup?

  • Do you have the data sheets for the motors so that I can use the dimensions in my model?

    You can find the datasheets to our motors be going to the the stepping motor category page https://www.buildyourcnc.com/category/nema and selecting the motor. This will bring you to the product page for the motor and all of the motor information will be found there.

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    Do you have the data sheets for the motors so that I can use the dimensions in my model?

  • Motor tuning. While motor tuning what are the recommended steps per inch, velocity, and acceleration for the BlackFoot CNC?

    These are the recommend values(default) for our blackFoot CNC machine, the acceleration and velocity can be adjusted as high as the motor can rotate without stalling! Suggested increment's will be by 10's.

    blackFoot:
    X-axis
    “CW8060 (6.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/16 Microstep, 5.43A
    Dipswitches: 01100110 (“0”=down, “1”=up)
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 914.29 steps/in, Velocity 400.02, Acceleration 4
    Y-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/16 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 11001100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1422.22 steps/in, Velocity 400.02, Acceleration 4
    Z-axis
    “CW230 (3.0A) Driver”
    Set to 1/4 Microstep, 2.7A
    Dipswitches: 10101100
    Mach3 Motor Tuning: 1600 steps/in, Velocity 79.98, Acceleration 5

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    how can we tuning the CNC motor

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    Motor tuning. While motor tuning what are the recommended steps per inch, velocity, and acceleration for the BlackFoot CNC?

  • Do you have a larger kit for the Blacktooth Laser? I need a laser with at least 80watts of power.

    We have one in the works. It is a 4'x8' machine that will house the 80w laser tube on the gantry. The machine is bout 2 months out as of 1/7/2014.

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    Do you have a larger kit for the Blacktooth Laser? I need a laser with at least 80watts of power.

  • HOW LONG SHOULD THE MOTOR CABLES BE FOR BLACKTOE

    The motor cables for the blackToe are as follows:

    Total 30 feet

    X - 9
    Y - 10
    Z - 11

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    HOW LONG SHOULD THE MOTOR CABLES BE FOR BLACKTOE

  • Do you offer plans for the blackToe CNC Machine?

    The blackToe machine is offered as a kit only. We do have a machine that is build form plans. The plans refer to the scratch build machine: http://www.buildyourcnc.com/cnckitintro.aspx and the one in the book "Build Your Own CNC Machine": http://www.buildyourcnc.com/Book.aspx

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    Do you offer plans for the blackToe CNC Machine?

  • What length of wire do you recommend for the black toe (2'x4') between the spindle and VFD?

    The length of the cable from the VFD (Variable Frequency Drive) to the actual spindle should be about the same as the z-axis cable from the z-axis motor to the z-axis driver which is recommended at 11 feet. This is locating the VFD about at the midpoint of the machine.

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    What length of wire do you recommend for the black toe (2'x4') between the spindle and VFD?

  • I have a blacktooth laser engraver. The Y Axis stepper motor needs to be replaced. Can you please provide me with the information I would need to replace this motor.

    Yes, if you need a replacement part on your machine please call us at 281-815-7701.

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    I have a blacktooth laser engraver. The Y Axis stepper motor needs to be replaced. Can you please provide me with the information I would need to replace this motor.

  • Do you have a laser kit that is larger than the blackTooth?

    We have one in the works. It is a 4'x8' machine that will house the 80w laser tube on the gantry. The machine is bout 2 months out as of 1/7/2014.

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    Do you have a laser kit that is larger than the blackTooth?

  • Do you have instructions how to mount the AWC708 DSP on the blackTooth?

    We are working on getting these on the blackTooth page


    Additional Information:
    Ok, thanks. Do you use a separate 24V P/S for the supply voltage on the AWC708C or tap into the stepper motor P/S?

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    Do you have instructions how to mount the AWC708 DSP on the blackTooth?

  • Do I need Z axis mount for spindle? I currently have router cnc blacktoe

    You will need a Z-axis mount for Spindle if you are currently using a router.

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    Do I need Z axis mount for spindle? I currently have router cnc blacktoe

  • Do you need to purchase the Black Toe with integrated computer if you have a dedicated computer to do deisgn and create g-code.

    If you have an existing PC with a parallel port you will not need to purchase the onboard computer system on the blackTooth laser cutter and engraver. You will want to purchase the blackTooth laser engraver that comes with the parallel interface (breakout board). If you have an existing CNC machine that is being used with this PC, you can disconnect the CNC machine and connect the blackTooth to this PC. You will want to have two configurations for your control software.

    Additional Information:
    We have a version of the blackTooth that is 110v and 220v. We generally determine which is sent according to the requirements of the customer and in what country they live.

    Additional Information:
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    Additional Information:
    Parallel Port Configuration BIOS settings and Mach 3.

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    Do you need to purchase the Black Toe with integrated computer if you have a dedicated computer to do deisgn and create g-code.

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