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Question: New 2.2kw spindle are Pin functions 1,2,3 the same as the older 4pin? U -> Pin #3 V -> Pin #1 W -> Pin #2

Current Solution

That is correct. The new spindle uses 3 pins only. The connections:

3 to U
1 to V
2 to W

If the spindle spins in the direction not intended, just swap 2 of the pins.

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  • Are there any other manuals for the VFD that comes with the 2.2kw spindle?

    We have manuals for the VFD rather than the spindles. Can you specify what issue you may be having so we can help you better?

    Additional Information:
    I am having trouble wiring the VFD. (From the wall outlet to the VFD) I think the manual or setup guide on your website is wrong. The two diagrams show two different sets of terminals on the page.

    Also, do you have a video or other documentation on programming the VFD? Your videos and documentation looks like it only covers the 1.2kw version. Are the two different spindles from different manufacturers?

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    Are there any other manuals for the VFD that comes with the 2.2kw spindle?

  • Are there instructions to disassemble the 2.2KW spindle (220v)? We need to replace the bearings.

    We actually tried dissassembling one of our spindles in house with no success, but I just found a good thread on CNCZone that has a good set of photos and instructions.

    Here is the link: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/spindles-vfd/129454-water-cooled-chinese-spindle-disassembly.html

    Please let me know if this helps.

    Additional Information:
    Also, If you have no success, let us know and we will make an attempt here on video.

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    Are there instructions to disassemble the 2.2KW spindle (220v)? We need to replace the bearings.

  • It seems that the water cooling lines inside my 2.2KW spindle are clogged. Is there a way to unclogg them?

    You can use a compressor to unclogg the water lines of the spindle. We use this method and it works every time (so far).

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    It seems that the water cooling lines inside my 2.2KW spindle are clogged. Is there a way to unclogg them?

  • Good morning, I would like to know if the strength of the 2.2kw spindle is weaker when using the 110V version of the VFD. Does it have the same power as the 220V version VFD?

    The 2.2kW spindle will have the same amount of torque and strength using either the 110V or the 220V inverter. Nothing will significantly change in either application since the 110V inverter has a small step up transformer which will increase the voltage from 110V to 220V to run the spindle efficiently.

    Additional Information:
    I'd like confirmation on this -- isn't there a cost in efficiency to having the 110v step up to 220v?

    Additional Information:
    Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

    Additional Information:
    Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

    Additional Information:
    Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

    Additional Information:
    Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

    Additional Information:
    Thank you so very much for explaining this!!! I truly appreciate your help! Tricia

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    Good morning, I would like to know if the strength of the 2.2kw spindle is weaker when using the 110V version of the VFD. Does it have the same power as the 220V version VFD?

  • The 2.2kW Spindle, what fittings are needed to install water cooling tubes and what size tubes are meant to cool the spindle?

    The spindle water inlet and outlet fittings are 1/4 Inside Diameter and 3/8 Outside Diameter.

    You can find the silicone tubes here:
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-silicone-tubing

    This fitting will connect to the pump (1/2" male to 1/4" female):
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-Tube-Fitting-Female-to-Male

    And this fitting will provide a reduced barbed size (1/4") for the tube:
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-Tube-Fitting-Barbed-to-Male

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    The 2.2kW Spindle, what fittings are needed to install water cooling tubes and what size tubes are meant to cool the spindle?

  • What is the Greenbull average power consumption in conjunction with 2.2KW spindle?

    You can determine you overall CNC machine current consumption be adding your spindle power plus your CNC motion power and the power that your computer requires.

    the formula to understand the current of each component is watts = volts x current, or W = V * I, or with some algebra, Current (I) = Watts (W) / Volts (V)

    For example:

    Spindle:
    The 2.2 kW = 2200 watts and you can find the current by taking the input voltage of 220 volt and get the current using the above formula: 2200 W / 220 V = 10 A (Amps)

    CNC motion electronics:
    The power supply that comes with our machines is generally 8.8 A

    Computer:
    The computer that you use to control the CNC machine will have a specific wattage. Let's say the watts is 500: 500 W / 110 V = 4.5 A

    Add them up: 10 A + 8.8 A + 4.5 A = 23.3 Amps

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    What is the Greenbull average power consumption in conjunction with 2.2KW spindle?

  • What is the liquid input and output barb size on your 2.2kw water cooled spindle?

    The spindle water inlet and outlet fittings are 1/4 Inside Diameter and 3/8 Outside Diameter.

    You can find the silicone tubes here:
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-silicone-tubing

    This fitting will connect to the pump (1/2" male to 1/4" female):
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-Tube-Fitting-Female-to-Male

    And this fitting will provide a reduced barbed size (1/4") for the tube:
    https://buildyourcnc.com/item/pneumatic-hydraulic-Tube-Fitting-Barbed-to-Male

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    What is the liquid input and output barb size on your 2.2kw water cooled spindle?

  • I have the redFly system and a 2.2kW Spindle - 110V how do i connect the spindal?

    It is not necessary to connect the spindle VFD (Variable Frequency Drive also called an Inverter) to the computer or CNC motion electronics. The VFD can be controlled independently using the control panel on the VFD. The control panel has the ability to control all aspects of the spindle including Speed, Torque, limits, etc. However, you can connect the VFD to the computer so the CNC control program can control the spindle during the CNC Machine operation. You will need to connect the VFD to the computer via a serial conection (in this case, it is the RS-485 protocol).

    The following are instructions on how to connect the VFD to Mach3 via this RS-485 serial connection.

    The first thing you will need is the dynamic link library to pair with mach3 called the Huanyang VFD Mach3 PlugIn. You can find this file at the mach3 support forum here: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,14182.0.html

    You will also need to download the Microsoft .net 3.5 framework and install it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

    Follow the pdf that comes with the library file, but here is a synopsis of what you need to do (I also added a lot more information that may be useful during this process as the manual does not cover the main connections that need to be done):

    You will need to program your VFD so that it knows how to communicate with mach3 and the computer (go into the programming mode of the VFD and change these parameters):
    - PD001 - value 2 - Enables with communication aspect of the VFD
    - PD002 - value 2 - Enables frequency control from the communcations port
    - PD163 - value 1 - VFD address
    - PD164 - value 1 - Baud rate of 9600 (speed of the communication)
    - PD165 - value 3 - 8N1 RTU - 8 bits (that's the size of the word that gets communicated), N (No parity or no error checking) and 1 (1 stop bit)

    Copy the dll file to the PlugIns folder of mach3.

    Connect the RX and TX lines to your computer. There are a couple ways you can do this, but the recommended way would be to use an FTDI USB device which converts a USB to a serial com port. The device will have Rx and Tx connectors to connect to the VFD terminals with the same labels. This method is recommended since serial ports are not as common in computers these days.

    Next, you will need to configure mach3 to use the plugin library. Start mach3 and click on Menu -> config ->Config Plugins. Enable the new plugin by clicking on the red cross on the left column next to the plug in. Restart mach3 after doing this.

    No you need to configure mach3 to use the HuanyangVFD plugin. Go to the ports & pins configuration and select the spindle setup tab. Make sure that the Disable Spindle Relays checkbox is unchecked. We don't want mach3 to output a signal for a relay since the spindle will start up and turn off within the VFD and not from an external relay.

    Next, go to the HuanyangVFD settings by clicking on Menu -> plugin control -> HuanyangVFD. Set the parameters to the same settings you put into the VFD programming. The com port will be shown as new hardward when you plug in the USB FTDI device. A little bubble will be displayed at the bottom right where it will notify you that a new device is being installed (be patient while windows assigns a com port). Alternatively, you can use the windows device manager to see which port was set for the new USB FTDI device). You may need to restart mach3 several times until you get the correct information displayed in the PD001 and PD002 fields. When the com port is correct and the other parameters, like baud and VFD address is the same as you entered in the programming, then the PD001 and PD002 will show the number 2, otherwise, a 99 will appear which means that communication was not successful.

    You can now control the on/off and RPM of the spindle using the RS485 communication between mach3 and the VFD.

    Additional Information:
    The question was how to connect the spindle to the redfy. I did not receive a VFD.
    I have the redFly system and a 2.2kW Spindle - 110V how do i connect the spindle?

    Additional Information:
    If you received a spindle without a VFD, please contact us asap. Our spindle will not work without a VFD.

    Additional Information:
    Hi, how is this setup in mach4?

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    I have the redFly system and a 2.2kW Spindle - 110V how do i connect the spindal?

  • I have the redFly system and a 2.2kW Spindle - 110V how do i connect the spindal?

    It is not necessary to connect the spindle VFD (Variable Frequency Drive also called an Inverter) to the computer or CNC motion electronics. The VFD can be controlled independently using the control panel on the VFD. The control panel has the ability to control all aspects of the spindle including Speed, Torque, limits, etc. However, you can connect the VFD to the computer so the CNC control program can control the spindle during the CNC Machine operation. You will need to connect the VFD to the computer via a serial conection (in this case, it is the RS-485 protocol).

    The following are instructions on how to connect the VFD to Mach3 via this RS-485 serial connection.

    The first thing you will need is the dynamic link library to pair with mach3 called the Huanyang VFD Mach3 PlugIn. You can find this file at the mach3 support forum here: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,14182.0.html

    You will also need to download the Microsoft .net 3.5 framework and install it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

    Follow the pdf that comes with the library file, but here is a synopsis of what you need to do (I also added a lot more information that may be useful during this process as the manual does not cover the main connections that need to be done):

    You will need to program your VFD so that it knows how to communicate with mach3 and the computer (go into the programming mode of the VFD and change these parameters):
    - PD001 - value 2 - Enables with communication aspect of the VFD
    - PD002 - value 2 - Enables frequency control from the communcations port
    - PD163 - value 1 - VFD address
    - PD164 - value 1 - Baud rate of 9600 (speed of the communication)
    - PD165 - value 3 - 8N1 RTU - 8 bits (that's the size of the word that gets communicated), N (No parity or no error checking) and 1 (1 stop bit)

    Copy the dll file to the PlugIns folder of mach3.

    Connect the RX and TX lines to your computer. There are a couple ways you can do this, but the recommended way would be to use an FTDI USB device which converts a USB to a serial com port. The device will have Rx and Tx connectors to connect to the VFD terminals with the same labels. This method is recommended since serial ports are not as common in computers these days.

    Next, you will need to configure mach3 to use the plugin library. Start mach3 and click on Menu -> config ->Config Plugins. Enable the new plugin by clicking on the red cross on the left column next to the plug in. Restart mach3 after doing this.

    No you need to configure mach3 to use the HuanyangVFD plugin. Go to the ports & pins configuration and select the spindle setup tab. Make sure that the Disable Spindle Relays checkbox is unchecked. We don't want mach3 to output a signal for a relay since the spindle will start up and turn off within the VFD and not from an external relay.

    Next, go to the HuanyangVFD settings by clicking on Menu -> plugin control -> HuanyangVFD. Set the parameters to the same settings you put into the VFD programming. The com port will be shown as new hardward when you plug in the USB FTDI device. A little bubble will be displayed at the bottom right where it will notify you that a new device is being installed (be patient while windows assigns a com port). Alternatively, you can use the windows device manager to see which port was set for the new USB FTDI device). You may need to restart mach3 several times until you get the correct information displayed in the PD001 and PD002 fields. When the com port is correct and the other parameters, like baud and VFD address is the same as you entered in the programming, then the PD001 and PD002 will show the number 2, otherwise, a 99 will appear which means that communication was not successful.

    You can now control the on/off and RPM of the spindle using the RS485 communication between mach3 and the VFD.

    Additional Information:
    The question was how to connect the spindle to the redfy. I did not receive a VFD.
    I have the redFly system and a 2.2kW Spindle - 110V how do i connect the spindle?

    Additional Information:
    If you received a spindle without a VFD, please contact us asap. Our spindle will not work without a VFD.

    Additional Information:
    Hi, how is this setup in mach4?

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    I have the redFly system and a 2.2kW Spindle - 110V how do i connect the spindal?

  • My Spindle has 4 pins but only the U, V and W terminals at used for the Spindle. What about the 4th pin?

    The terminals of U, V and W from the VFD (Variable Frequency Drive) connects to the three coils (first three pins of the connector) of the spindle. The 4th pin in the spindle is typically not connected; however, bring a wire from the PE (Protective Earth or Earth Ground) from the VFD and connect it to one of the screws of the connector on the spindle. This will ground the body of the spindle.

    Additional Information:
    The winding in your motor is start connected, U, V & W are the 3-phases of the motor and the 4th one is the common. Same as star connection.

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    My Spindle has 4 pins but only the U, V and W terminals at used for the Spindle. What about the 4th pin?

  • I HAVE THE REDFLY SYSTEM AND A 2.2KW SPINDLE - 110V HOW DO CONNECT SPINDAL?

    It is not necessary to connect the spindle VFD (Variable Frequency Drive also called an Inverter) to the computer or CNC motion electronics. The VFD can be controlled independently using the control panel on the VFD. The control panel has the ability to control all aspects of the spindle including Speed, Torque, limits, etc. However, you can connect the VFD to the computer so the CNC control program can control the spindle during the CNC Machine operation. You will need to connect the VFD to the computer via a serial conection (in this case, it is the RS-485 protocol).

    The following are instructions on how to connect the VFD to Mach3 via this RS-485 serial connection.

    The first thing you will need is the dynamic link library to pair with mach3 called the Huanyang VFD Mach3 PlugIn. You can find this file at the mach3 support forum here: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,14182.0.html

    You will also need to download the Microsoft .net 3.5 framework and install it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

    Follow the pdf that comes with the library file, but here is a synopsis of what you need to do (I also added a lot more information that may be useful during this process as the manual does not cover the main connections that need to be done):

    You will need to program your VFD so that it knows how to communicate with mach3 and the computer (go into the programming mode of the VFD and change these parameters):
    - PD001 - value 2 - Enables with communication aspect of the VFD
    - PD002 - value 2 - Enables frequency control from the communcations port
    - PD163 - value 1 - VFD address
    - PD164 - value 1 - Baud rate of 9600 (speed of the communication)
    - PD165 - value 3 - 8N1 RTU - 8 bits (that's the size of the word that gets communicated), N (No parity or no error checking) and 1 (1 stop bit)

    Copy the dll file to the PlugIns folder of mach3.

    Connect the RX and TX lines to your computer. There are a couple ways you can do this, but the recommended way would be to use an FTDI USB device which converts a USB to a serial com port. The device will have Rx and Tx connectors to connect to the VFD terminals with the same labels. This method is recommended since serial ports are not as common in computers these days.

    Next, you will need to configure mach3 to use the plugin library. Start mach3 and click on Menu -> config ->Config Plugins. Enable the new plugin by clicking on the red cross on the left column next to the plug in. Restart mach3 after doing this.

    No you need to configure mach3 to use the HuanyangVFD plugin. Go to the ports & pins configuration and select the spindle setup tab. Make sure that the Disable Spindle Relays checkbox is unchecked. We don't want mach3 to output a signal for a relay since the spindle will start up and turn off within the VFD and not from an external relay.

    Next, go to the HuanyangVFD settings by clicking on Menu -> plugin control -> HuanyangVFD. Set the parameters to the same settings you put into the VFD programming. The com port will be shown as new hardward when you plug in the USB FTDI device. A little bubble will be displayed at the bottom right where it will notify you that a new device is being installed (be patient while windows assigns a com port). Alternatively, you can use the windows device manager to see which port was set for the new USB FTDI device). You may need to restart mach3 several times until you get the correct information displayed in the PD001 and PD002 fields. When the com port is correct and the other parameters, like baud and VFD address is the same as you entered in the programming, then the PD001 and PD002 will show the number 2, otherwise, a 99 will appear which means that communication was not successful.

    You can now control the on/off and RPM of the spindle using the RS485 communication between mach3 and the VFD.

    Additional Information:
    The question was how to connect the spindle to the redfy. I did not receive a VFD.
    I have the redFly system and a 2.2kW Spindle - 110V how do i connect the spindle?

    Additional Information:
    If you received a spindle without a VFD, please contact us asap. Our spindle will not work without a VFD.

    Additional Information:
    Hi, how is this setup in mach4?

    Click the link to add information to this solution:
    I HAVE THE REDFLY SYSTEM AND A 2.2KW SPINDLE - 110V HOW DO CONNECT SPINDAL?

  • [78] what type of bearings are used in the 2.2 kW (kilowatt) Water Cooled Spindle

    The 2.2kW spindle has 4 bearings in total:
    - two 7005 angular contact ball bearings and 25mm ID x 47mm OD x 12mm W
    - two 7002 angular contact single row ball bearings with the dimensions 15mm ID X OD 32mm X W 9mm

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    [78] what type of bearings are used in the 2.2 kW (kilowatt) Water Cooled Spindle

  • Can you custimize the 2'x4' CNC Machine Kit (blackToe v4.1) w/ 2.2kW Spindle into a 2'x3' Machine Kit?

    Yes, that is not a problem at all. Give us a call.

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    Can you custimize the 2'x4' CNC Machine Kit (blackToe v4.1) w/ 2.2kW Spindle into a 2'x3' Machine Kit?

  • What brand is the 2.2 kW spindle? Same for the VFD. Thanks.

    Spindles are generally covered up to 1 year after date of purchase. We do not repair them in house, but we do work with our manufacturer to replace defective units. Generally if you have a defective unit covered under warranty, we will issue a replacement.

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    What brand is the 2.2 kW spindle? Same for the VFD. Thanks.

  • how much does the 2.2kW spindle and the VFD weigh together?

    The weight of the 2.2kW spindle without the VFD (variable frequency drive or inverter) is 11 lbs or 5 kg.

    The 2.2kW spindle with the VFD is 15 lbs or 6.8 kg.

    Additional Information:

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    how much does the 2.2kW spindle and the VFD weigh together?

  • WHAT ARE THE SPINDLE INVERTERS (VFD) INPUT AC CONNECTIONS FROM WALL OUTLET?

    Input to VFD:
    240V Active - R
    240V Neutral - S
    Ground - E

    Additional Information:

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    WHAT ARE THE SPINDLE INVERTERS (VFD) INPUT AC CONNECTIONS FROM WALL OUTLET?

  • What is the rpm range of the 2.2kw spindle and inverter?

    The VFD is capable of a maximum of 400 Hz frequency. That converts to 24,000 RPM for the spindle. The minimum frequency is 100 Hz which is 6000 RPM.

    Additional Information:
    how to program VFD for low speed


    Additional Information:
    You can program the VFD for low RPM only if the spindle will function at low speed without failure. What is the model of your VFD?

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    What is the rpm range of the 2.2kw spindle and inverter?

  • Is the 2.2kW spindle available in an ER20 collet option?

    the 2.2kW spindle uses the ER20 collet by default. The ER20 collets can accept shanks as small as about 1mm all the way up to 9/16 inches or 13mm.

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    Is the 2.2kW spindle available in an ER20 collet option?

  • What collet size comes with the 2.2kw spindle?

    All of our spindles come standard with a 1/4" collet. The 2.2kw, and 4.0kw, can be upgraded to a 1/2" collet with a separate purchase.

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    What collet size comes with the 2.2kw spindle?

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