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Question: What's the maximum speed at I can machining reliefs without lost steps with BlueChick?

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This will depend on the material, end mill that you are using, and whether you are using a spindle or a router. The stepping motors and the mechanics on the blueChick (and the other machines as well) can move the machine very fast (x and y about 700 ipm rapids).

You will need to refer to the manufacturer specifications for the speed on the end mill with the particular material. The Onsrud end mills sold here are of top quality and can generally go faster than standard end mills. If the reliefs are in wood, you will be able to machine around 200 to 80 ipm depending on the wood and the depth per pass. Generally, you want to rough out most of the wood with a roughing end mill then finish off with a finishing end mill with a small tip and a small step over.

If you are using a router, the speeds will be slower than a spindle since the spindle can handle more torque and the torque is compensated with the VFD (Variable Frequency Drive).

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    The shipping is determined at checkout. When you have the items in your cart, enter your shipping information and click on "calculate shipping". You will need to select your shipping preference, service and carrier.

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    What's the cost of a Bluechick 4.2 with computer ready to go shipped to Reno NV. porter 892 set up.

  • If I am cutting 18mm MDF with 6mm cutting bit (so 6mm pass), what can be the maximum speed rate of cutting and spindle speed of router?

    The best way to determine the cutting speed is to determine this with respect to the edge quality you desire. This recommendation generally comes from the major end mill manufacturers.

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    Formula:
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    or

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    Once you find this information, apply this to the material at the full depth of the end mill. If you find that your edge condition is aberrant, pull back on either the speed, or the depth per pass. If the edge condition is acceptable, then push the speed higher until the edge condition starts to deteriorate in quality and then pull back to the accepted level.

    Using this method, you will be able to reduce the wear on the end mil which will be the most expensive consumable on the machine.

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    If I am cutting 18mm MDF with 6mm cutting bit (so 6mm pass), what can be the maximum speed rate of cutting and spindle speed of router?

  • Does the Bluechick (rollerchain) come with the y-axis rails, z-axis rails, and rollerchain if it was purchased without electronics?

    Yes, the bluechick without electronics is the entire structure (including rails), all hardware, and mechanical parts but without the stepper motors, drivers, power supply, and breakout board.

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    Does the Bluechick (rollerchain) come with the y-axis rails, z-axis rails, and rollerchain if it was purchased without electronics?

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    We currently do not have that application implemented in our design. please suggest this in our R/D section (http://buildyourcnc.com/ResDev.aspx).

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    I need a customised blackfoot without spindle but mount for vacuum pump pick and place.What software do I need and what's the quote

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    We recommend checking the dip switch settings on your drivers, having the correct microstepping/amp settings along with the steps/unit will help the motors run as effective as possible.
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    Z-axis step/unit: 1600 initial speed:100 maximum speed:300 acceleration:25
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    Make sure to adjust the JOG slide bard underneath the axis controls on screen to about 750, to compensate for your x/y-axis adjustments. If left alone the speed will max out at the default setting.

    Here is a video tutorial to calculate the steps required depending on your mechanical linear motion components. (

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    I bought Nema 24 motors and driver package with usb board. What do i need to have more speed? Cant even jog past 25 ipm without the motor stalling (not having enough torgue)

  • I have a blueChick version 4.2 CNC Machine with no schematics for it is there anyway possibly i can get them so i can finish putting my cnc together

    To assemble the blueChick v4.2, you will need two sets of instructions, the assembly instructions for the main body and mechanicals of the CNC machine, and the instructions to connect and test all of the electronics.

    The assembly instructions are located at this URL towards the bottom of the page (click on each picture to get a larger view):

    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/blueChickVersion42CNCMachineKit.aspx

    The instructions to connect and test the electronics can be found at this URL:

    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/CNCElectronicsandWiring.aspx

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    I have a blueChick version 4.2 CNC Machine with no schematics for it is there anyway possibly i can get them so i can finish putting my cnc together

  • Can you ship the parts to India without having an end user to deal with the customs?

    We follow all regulations in regards to international shipments. The only way to avoid dealing with customs would be to hire a local courier to handle the process for you.

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    Can you ship the parts to India without having an end user to deal with the customs?

  • Can the completely configured blueChick, with computer be shipped with working and test Unbuntu/EMC2 and not Windows/Mach3?

    I noticed in the Computer CNC Systems of this webpage that Linux/EMC2 (now called LinuxCNC) is available on the preconfigured systems. The wording on the CNC Machines page makes it look like Windows7 is all that is available. So thats the best I can see for now as far as clarity.

    Yes, if the redLeaf or redSprout is purchased with the machine, we can completely configure the electronics to use Ubuntu and Linuxcnc. If windows is selected, we install Windows 7 and completely configured under Mach3.

    If Windows is not selected, we assume Ubuntu/Linuxcnc, but we always contact the customer to confirm in these cases.

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    Can the completely configured blueChick, with computer be shipped with working and test Unbuntu/EMC2 and not Windows/Mach3?

  • how much would your vertical laser kit cost without the wood components and door plastic shipped to Canada

    Good question. I will need to add up the cost. However, the complete kit with the wood components will cost in the range of $300 to $500 using freight.

    Additional Information:
    I will add a price option on the Vertical Laser XL page that shows the assembly price without the wood structural parts. Are you wanting the rails included in the price?

    Additional Information:
    Hi, I was expecting an email answer, I did not know that you answered. Also I am in Fiji, not Canada. There is a flaw with your question form, It would not accept Fiji because we have no postal codes, so I put in my old Canadian code so that it would accept my question.

    Yes we would need the rails and any mechanical and electrical components. Our plan is to build it against a wall in a shipping container.

    If you do not have a suitable freight forwarder I can ask at this end because people frequently receive shipping containers.

    Thank you,

    George

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  • with the blueChick v4.2 can any software be used or doo we need to purchase a lic key from the manufacture of the control board for 75 bucks

    If you have the USB controller you will need to purchase a USB controller license from planet-cnc.

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    with the blueChick v4.2 can any software be used or doo we need to purchase a lic key from the manufacture of the control board for 75 bucks

  • I'M CURIOUS IF THESE SYSTEMS WILL ENGRAVE LETTERING ACCURATELY WITHOUT BACKLASH?

    The machines have minimal to no backlash depending on how you apply the machine. Since the cnc machines use roller chain on the x and y axes, and the roller chain is tensioned, the backlash is nearly eliminated. I say nearly because the if you control the machine in a way that there will be excessive load on the end mill, then the machine could have a tendency to spring to one side or the other because of the length of tensioned roller chain. The movement is minor and can be eliminated with the proper control of the machine.

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  • I have a BlueChick that came with the 5-Axis Bread-Out Board V5 (parallel port), it has 3xCW230, how to configure it on LinuxCNC?

    Strictly to the point. Assuming:
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    -You have wired motors to motor drivers (watch video tutorials for that on this site)

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    To get the Base Period Maximun Jitter, go to
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    After its been running for half an hour or so with the machine in use, write down the calculated jitter values, mine was Servo Thread - 39000

    Now close the Latency test dialog

    b)Go to applications - cnc - stepconfwizard
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    FORWARD

    c)"BASE INFORMATION"
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    Fill in the Base Period Maximun Jitter with the value obtained in "a)"

    FORWARD

    d)If you watched the tutorials on a) and b) you know the pin numbers for your signals.
    Parport Base Address you need to put the value obtained in a), mine was cf00
    Output pinout presets I used Sherline

    FORWARD
    FORWARD

    e)Axis X (chain and sprocket axis)
    Data for bluechick from build yourcnc
    Motor Steps per revolution 200
    Microstepping 64 (that if you followed tutorials, change if you have different)
    Pulley teeth 1 ; 1
    Leadscrew Pitch 0.444444 (that value comes from 1rev / (.25 in * 9 teeth))
    Maximun Velocity 10
    Maximun Acceleration 0.5
    Home location 0.0
    Table travel 0.0 to 34.0 (maybe you want to change this later)

    Now, you can do "Test this axis" and jog it (move it!) Try to position everything in the middle (you will be doing it axis by axis) and select
    "+ 0.5 in" Hit run, I used a pencil held at the gantry and paper to draw a line, then confirmed that the measurement was 0.5 in. Also tried with "+/- 0.5 in" and confirmed 1" measurement

    FORWARD when happy with your Axis X

    Repeat for Axix Y but the table travel is 0.0 to 12.0

    f)AXIS Z
    With data from buildyourcnc.com
    Motor Steps per rev 200
    Driver Microstepping 16 (as recommended for lead screw)
    Pulley teeth 1 ; 1
    Leadscrew Pitch 2
    Max Vel 2.5
    Max Accel 0.5

    Table travel 0.0 to 3.5

    Test, and FORWARD when happy

    g)After configured you can go to
    Applications - cnc - LinuxCNC, and there you go...




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    ... Still think that there should be a tutorial for this part.

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    oh¡ Forgot to tell, the config shortcut will be available on our Desktop, launch linuxCNC from there

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    I have a BlueChick that came with the 5-Axis Bread-Out Board V5 (parallel port), it has 3xCW230, how to configure it on LinuxCNC?

  • Whats the maximum recommended speed to lase (engraving not cutting) a shape (say triangle) using the greenBull hybrid?

    The feedrate at which to engrave using a CO2 laser will depend on the material, depth of engraving and intensity of the laser output. For instance, if engraving plastic, you can run the machine at a very high feedrate (i.e. 100-500 ipm) and a very low intensity. In converse, anodized aluminum will require high intensity and moderate feedrate. Engraving woods will require fast or slow feedrate and high or low laser intensity depending on the result desired.

    With the greenBull, be careful with changes in direction at high feedrates as there is a very high amount of inertia with all of the components on the gantry. It is good to test raster vs. vector for some engraving patterns.

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    I should have specified my exact question better. Sorry. Where you say "be careful with changes in direction at high feedrates as there is a very high amount of inertia", what is the maximum allowed acceleration (conversely deceleration) you recommend using.

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    Whats the maximum recommended speed to lase (engraving not cutting) a shape (say triangle) using the greenBull hybrid?

  • I need technical support for your Bluechick CNC and I can't get a reponse on the phone.

    You may have called outside of our business hours. Give this "Customer Service Live" mechanism a try and ask away. If you would still rather call us, please call between 9:00am and 5:00 pm Central Time.

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  • can I control the speed of a 2.2 spindle through your 5 axis breakout board with relay?

    Yes, you can control the speed of the 2.2 kW spindle, and the other spindles we sell, through Mach3 software. It requires making some changes to the settings in Mach3 and in your inverter. It also requires an additional part, which is called a USB to Serial Converter, found on our site here:

    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/Interfaces-newbiehack-Interfaces-TTL232R-USB-UART-Serial

    I have some additional instructions, that I will send upon request, by email. I will also be adding a complete tutorial and video, to the website, on how to do this soon.

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    can I control the speed of a 2.2 spindle through your 5 axis breakout board with relay?

  • I purachased a bluechick from you in 2011. I am upgrading from a Porter-cable router to a 2.2kw spindle. Can you supply me with drawings for the spindle mount so that I can cut the parts?

    We currently cannot release or sell any plans at this current moment! We apologize for this inconvenience, however if you email us at customerservice@buildyourcnc.com. We can help you get the current parts you will need, for a fully functional 2.2kW z-axis assembly.

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    I purachased a bluechick from you in 2011. I am upgrading from a Porter-cable router to a 2.2kw spindle. Can you supply me with drawings for the spindle mount so that I can cut the parts?

  • Can I purchase the wood pieces of the GreenBull 6x without any hardware (all gantry "Y", all "Z", and "X" chain end supports)?

    That option is not a common request for our machines, we will need to contact you further with specifications on that request for the greenBull.

    Email: customerservice@buildyourcnc.com

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    Can I purchase the wood pieces of the GreenBull 6x without any hardware (all gantry "Y", all "Z", and "X" chain end supports)?

  • Will the Bluechick v4.2 work with EnRoute CAD/CAM Software?

    Our machines will work with whatever CAD/CAM software you will like to use; Now knowing what you can export from EnRoute, you will need to be aware of what formats you will need for example g-code for(Mach 3 or Planet-CNC/ Linux EMC2/CNC) is what we use to essentially move the motors to cut your design.

    Here is a forum of EnRoute dealing with Mach 3 (http://store.thinksai.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=701).

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  • Can I increase the travel speed of my machine with different lead screws?

    Changing your lead screws from a tight to a lose lead will definitely make your machine move faster as long as your stepper motors can handle the new torque that the lead screws will impose.

    Here is an example of a speed change from one lead screw to another:
    - Existing constants in the example: Stepper Motor steps 200, microstepping 1/8 making the total steps 200 * 8 = 1600.
    - Old lead screw: 1/2" allthread = 13 threads per inch (UNC)
    - New Lead Screw: 1/2" 5 starts, 10 TPI = 10 / 5 = 2 turns per inch

    Old lead screw would achieve a steps per inch of:
    1600 / (1 inch / 13 turns) = 20,800 steps per inch (You can also express the calculation as 1600 * 13 = 20,800 steps/inch)

    New lead screw would achieve a steps per inch of:
    1600 / (1 inch / 2 turns) = 3200 steps per inch

    You can see that the new lead screw requires far fewer steps to get to the same length of travel. If you maintained the same velocity for both examples, the new lead screw would travel the same distance 13/2 = 6.5 times faster. So, if your velocity was say 10 ipm, your new velocity would be 65 ipm. That would translate to far fewer burned edges and longer end mill life!

    Just remember, confirm that your motors will be able to handle the new lead screw. You will need to reduce the steps/inch causing the motor torque to increase quite a bit, so you should be fine.

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