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Question #: 5763

Question: Does the 2.2kW 220V Spindle need Euro/AUS-style 240V power (1 hot, 1 neutral, 1 ground) or do North American 220V style welding plugs (2 hots, 1 ground) also work? Thx!

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Our 1.5/2.2kW spindle will work with both setups, in our wiring diagram it is more seen as the Euro/AUS-style, however you can do the same thing with the North American style as well. Also depending on if you have single or three phase 220V, you can use pins R, S, T. A manual will arrive in the VFD box, which will have further information and diagrams.

Please seek a certified electrician if you are unsure of any aspect in wiring the spindle or VFD, since wiring to main lines will require wiring of the plug and main lines to the inverter and to avoid any damage or injury's while installing the 1.5/2.2kW spindle and VFD combo.

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  • Good morning, I would like to know if the strength of the 2.2kw spindle is weaker when using the 110V version of the VFD. Does it have the same power as the 220V version VFD?

    The 2.2kW spindle will have the same amount of torque and strength using either the 110V or the 220V inverter. Nothing will significantly change in either application since the 110V inverter has a small step up transformer which will increase the voltage from 110V to 220V to run the spindle efficiently.

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    I'd like confirmation on this -- isn't there a cost in efficiency to having the 110v step up to 220v?

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    Good morning, I would like to know if the strength of the 2.2kw spindle is weaker when using the 110V version of the VFD. Does it have the same power as the 220V version VFD?

  • What wire do I need to power the spindle (ie, from the 220 outlet to the spindle). Would a dryer cable work? Is there specific amperage the wire needs?

    The wire that is connected to the spindle can be a simple extension cord, that you find at a local hardware store. However there is a missing wire that is required(ground) which will have to be the same amperage of the extension cord.

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    What wire do I need to power the spindle (ie, from the 220 outlet to the spindle). Would a dryer cable work? Is there specific amperage the wire needs?

  • Just for general knowledge. If a spindle gets i.e. 240VAC, and the drivers 36-50VDC for power, why do you need 5VDC for the Breakout Board (BlueBrew)? Is it only for the relay? I think I've seen other BoB's working without power supply, or am I wrong?

    Our breakout board, does require 5v to operate the correct voltages coming in from the drivers and also coming in from your computer, now the 5V will be supplied by the USB connection, so no external power supply is needed, for either our USB/Parallel breakout board.

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    Just for general knowledge. If a spindle gets i.e. 240VAC, and the drivers 36-50VDC for power, why do you need 5VDC for the Breakout Board (BlueBrew)? Is it only for the relay? I think I've seen other BoB's working without power supply, or am I wrong?

  • I JUST RECEIVED A REPLACEMENT SPINDLE (2.2KW 220V). HOWEVER, WHEN ATTEMPTED IT USE THE NEW SPINDLE, WOULD ONLY REACH 1500 RPM. IS THERE SOMETHING NEED TO CHANGE ON CONTROLLER?

    VFD settings........
    1) To program the VFD, wire it up, plug it in. It takes several seconds to come to life.

    2) Push the PRGM button to enter programing mode.

    3 )Push the SET button. The display will read PD000.

    4) If you push the SET button again, it will display the present setting of PD000.

    5 )By pushing the up or down arrows, you can change the setting to whatever it needs to be. (This is just an example. PD000 needs no changes)

    6)Push the SET button again to lock in the setting of PD000 and advance to the next number, in this case, PD001.

    7) Push the SET button and it will display the present setting of PD001. Again, use the up and down arrows as necessary to set PD001, then push SET again to lock it in.

    Note: You can also scroll through the PD numbers with the up and down arrows.

    8) make all settings this way.

    9) by pushing the SET button you can scroll through the settings. First push of SET moves to the next number, second push displays it's setting, third push moves to the next PD number.

    Note- If you take too long, it will leave the programing mode on it's own. If it does, just push PRGM again to return to programing mode. Then press SET and continue what you were doing.

    10) Start with PD013. Set it to 1, which returns the settings to the factory settings.

    11) Then set PD005 to 400, PD004 to 400, and PD003 to 400 IN THAT ORDER.

    12) Then set the following: PD041=8, PD144=3000

    13) Set PD209=50

    That's it for the programing. You should get 24000RPM when you push RUN.

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    I JUST RECEIVED A REPLACEMENT SPINDLE (2.2KW 220V). HOWEVER, WHEN ATTEMPTED IT USE THE NEW SPINDLE, WOULD ONLY REACH 1500 RPM. IS THERE SOMETHING NEED TO CHANGE ON CONTROLLER?

  • On the wiring diagrams for the 220v inverters I noticed that there is one hot (220) a neutral and a ground. Will the inverter work with the American split phase system? Hot (120) hot (120) ground?

    Our 1.5/2.2kW spindle will work with both setups, in our wiring diagram it is more seen as the Euro/AUS-style, however you can do the same thing with the North American style as well. Also depending on if you have single or three phase 220V, you can use pins R, S, T. A manual will arrive in the VFD box, which will have further information and diagrams.

    Please seek a certified electrician if you are unsure of any aspect in wiring the spindle or VFD, since wiring to main lines will require wiring of the plug and main lines to the inverter and to avoid any damage or injury's while installing the 1.5/2.2kW spindle and VFD combo.

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    On the wiring diagrams for the 220v inverters I noticed that there is one hot (220) a neutral and a ground. Will the inverter work with the American split phase system? Hot (120) hot (120) ground?

  • I just received a replacement spindle (2.2kW 220v). However, when I attempted it use the new spindle, it would only reach 1500 rpm. Is there something I need to change on the spindle controller?

    VFD settings........
    1) To program the VFD, wire it up, plug it in. It takes several seconds to come to life.

    2) Push the PRGM button to enter programing mode.

    3 )Push the SET button. The display will read PD000.

    4) If you push the SET button again, it will display the present setting of PD000.

    5 )By pushing the up or down arrows, you can change the setting to whatever it needs to be. (This is just an example. PD000 needs no changes)

    6)Push the SET button again to lock in the setting of PD000 and advance to the next number, in this case, PD001.

    7) Push the SET button and it will display the present setting of PD001. Again, use the up and down arrows as necessary to set PD001, then push SET again to lock it in.

    Note: You can also scroll through the PD numbers with the up and down arrows.

    8) make all settings this way.

    9) by pushing the SET button you can scroll through the settings. First push of SET moves to the next number, second push displays it's setting, third push moves to the next PD number.

    Note- If you take too long, it will leave the programing mode on it's own. If it does, just push PRGM again to return to programing mode. Then press SET and continue what you were doing.

    10) Start with PD013. Set it to 1, which returns the settings to the factory settings.

    11) Then set PD005 to 400, PD004 to 400, and PD003 to 400 IN THAT ORDER.

    12) Then set the following: PD041=8, PD144=3000

    13) Set PD209=50

    That's it for the programing. You should get 24000RPM when you push RUN.

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    I just received a replacement spindle (2.2kW 220v). However, when I attempted it use the new spindle, it would only reach 1500 rpm. Is there something I need to change on the spindle controller?

  • Are there instructions to disassemble the 2.2KW spindle (220v)? We need to replace the bearings.

    We actually tried dissassembling one of our spindles in house with no success, but I just found a good thread on CNCZone that has a good set of photos and instructions.

    Here is the link: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/spindles-vfd/129454-water-cooled-chinese-spindle-disassembly.html

    Please let me know if this helps.

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    Also, If you have no success, let us know and we will make an attempt here on video.

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    Are there instructions to disassemble the 2.2KW spindle (220v)? We need to replace the bearings.

  • Does the spindle accept different collet sizes, or do I need to purchase different spindles that will accept different collets?

    The 2.2kW spindle will accept up to 9/16" (a little over 1/2") end mill shanks down to very small diameters (any size that ER-20 will accept). The 1.5kW spindle has a reduced collet size and will only accept up to 5/16". The 1.5kW will accept ER-11 collets.

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    Does the spindle accept different collet sizes, or do I need to purchase different spindles that will accept different collets?

  • I need the drive setting for the 1.5kw spindle drive to work with the spindle motor where do I find them

    If you purchased the spindle from us, you should have received a little booklet that shows all of the program settings. If you did not receive that booklet, please call us so we can send you this booklet.

    If you have the booklet, please let us know specifically what setting you would like to set and we can help.

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    I need the drive setting for the 1.5kw spindle drive to work with the spindle motor where do I find them

  • i have a breakout usb controller iam using a spindle output to active a relay 5V but it didnt work.... whats the problem, what else i need to active that realy 5v 10A?

    To control a spindle using the USB CNC interface, you will need a relay board that contains a transistor that can activate the relay with a power source with enough current that can activate the relay. This video explains all of the information you will need to develop this relay circuit:

    &index=44&list=PLE72E4CFE73BD1DE1

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    i have a breakout usb controller iam using a spindle output to active a relay 5V but it didnt work.... whats the problem, what else i need to active that realy 5v 10A?

  • If I understand correctly, the greenBull kit comes with a spindle and laser. What else do I need to have a working machine. Obviously a table, do I also need the computer, software, wires, pump and plumbing, electronics, VFD, steppers and controllers?

    The greenBull kit (not the assembled) will need the table (the rails for the table is supplied), wires/cables for the stepper motors and stepper motor drivers, smaller gauge wires for digital wire connections (limit switches, drivers to control interface, etc), wires for the spindle connection to the VFD, tubing for water flow to and from the spindle, and a pump and reservoir (we are just about to introduce a small pump/reservoir/radiator/fan system for use with the spindle. The VFD/spindle, stepper motors/drivers and interface board are included.

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    If I understand correctly, the greenBull kit comes with a spindle and laser. What else do I need to have a working machine. Obviously a table, do I also need the computer, software, wires, pump and plumbing, electronics, VFD, steppers and controllers?

  • I'VE BUFFERED A PWM SIGNAL TO 0-10V ANALOG AND I WOULD LIKE USE THAT RUN YOUR 110V 2.2KW SPINDLE VFD. COULD YOU PLEASE DETAIL THE CORRECT WIRING VFD SETTINGS GET WORKING?

    This will depend on the VFD you have to identify the correct terminal. The terminal on the VFD will be labeled AI1 typically (Analog Input #1). You will also need to make sure to complete the PWM circuit using the GND terminal on the VFD.

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    I have wired my 0-10V signal to the AI1 and GND terminals as suggested. I have also set the PD-01 and PD-02 settings to 1. Still nothing. Is there something else that I am missing?

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    Thanks for the information. Can you let me know the model of the VFD that you have?

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    VFD Model # YL600-2S-2K20

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    Thanks. I will check our resources and documentation to see if there is another programming setting that needs to be changed.

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    Does your VFD have a VI terminal?

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    No, it does not. The terminals for this VFD are as follows (seperated by dashes "-").

    10V-AI1-AO2-PLC-DI5-DI3-DI1-COM
    AI2-GND-AO1-DI6-DI4-DI2-FM-24V

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    Do you have a PD070 parameter?

    PD070 is the main Analog Input parameter.

    The options for that parameter is:
    0: 0-10V
    1: 0-5V
    2: 0-20mA
    3: 4-20mA
    4: 0-10V (4-20mA Stacked)
    5: XIA
    6: (VI+XIA)/2
    7: (3VA+XIA)/4
    8: (XIA_XIB)/2
    9: Max (XIA, XIB)
    10: Min (XIA, XIB)


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    There is a PD-00 thru PD-09. PD-07 is currently set to 0.

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    It appears that the manual I’m using “Titled YL600” is not the same as your unit. I will check our manuals and find the one that has only PD-00 to PD-09.

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    For that VFD, the parameters are P0. The 0 may look like a D on the display.

    The parameters that need to be changed for the AI1 to work (Brackets [] around the correct selection):

    P0-01: First Motor Control Mode
    - 0: Sensorless Vector Control
    - 1: Flux Vector Control (FVC)
    - [2]: V/F Control

    P0-02: Options of Command Source
    - 0: Operation Panel Command Channel (LED will be off)
    - [1]: Terminal Command Channel (LED will be on)
    - 2: Communication Command Channel (LED will flicker)

    P0-03: Options of Principle Frequency Source X
    - 0: Digital Setting (Preset Frequency P0-08, UP/DOWN modifiable, no power-down memory)
    - 1: Digital Setting (Preset Frequency P0-08, UP/DOWN modifiable, with power-down memory)
    - [2]: AI1
    - 3: AI2
    - 4: AI3
    - 5: Pulse Setting (DI5)
    - 6: Multi Speed Instruction
    - 7: Simple PLC
    - 8: PID (Proportional Integral Derivative Control)
    - 9: Communication Given

    P0-11: Upper Limit Frequency Source
    - 0: P0-12 (Make sure the P0-12 parameter has the correct max frequency if used)
    - [1]: AI1
    - 2: AI2
    - 3: AI3
    - 4: Pulse Setting
    - 5: Communication Given

    P0-27: Command Source Bundle with Frequency Sources
    Single Digit: Options of Operation Panel Command Bundle with Frequency Sources
    - 0: No Bundling
    - 1: Digital Setting Frequency
    - [2]: AI1
    - 3: AI2
    - 4: AI3
    - 5: Pulse Setting (DI5)
    - 6: Multi Speed Instruction
    - 7: Simple PLC
    - 8: PID
    - 9: Communication Given
    Double Digit: Options of Terminal Command Bundle with Frequency Sources
    Hundred Place: Options of Communication Command Bundle with Frequency Sources
    Kilobit: Options of Automatic Operation Bundle with Frequency Sources

    P2-09: Upper Limit Source of Lower Torque Under Speed Control Mode
    - 0: Function Code P2-10 Setting
    - [1]: AI1
    - 2: AI2
    - 3: AI3
    - 4: Pulse Setting
    - 5: Communication Given
    - 6: MIN (Al1, Al2)
    - 7: MAX (Al1, Al2)
    - Maximum range for options 1-7, accords with P2-10

    If you elect to use a different AI#, then configure the parameters (P0-03, P0-11, P0-27 and P2-09) accordingly.

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    I'VE BUFFERED A PWM SIGNAL TO 0-10V ANALOG AND I WOULD LIKE USE THAT RUN YOUR 110V 2.2KW SPINDLE VFD. COULD YOU PLEASE DETAIL THE CORRECT WIRING VFD SETTINGS GET WORKING?

  • Will your 2.5 KW spindle work with my Hitachi WJ200-022SF VFD and does it have a thermal couple temp output?

    From reading on the Hitachi WJ200-022SF VFD, it seems as it will work just fine with this VFD. However since we have not tried this cross match, I would carefully take each connection and setting into great consideration and detail on both the Hitachi recommendations for setup, as well as our spindles recommended setup.
    Our spindles do not have a thermal couple temperature output.

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    Will your 2.5 KW spindle work with my Hitachi WJ200-022SF VFD and does it have a thermal couple temp output?

  • Good morning, we purchased the vfd with 220v but here in south america the standard is 110v, will it work? or should I adapt one power outlet to 220v

    If you purchased a 220 volt VFD (Variable Frequency Drive), you will need to use a 220 volt outlet. A VFD that has an input voltage rating of 220 volts will not work with 110 volts being applied to the VFD. We do sell 110 volt VFDs but you will also need a spindle that pairs with the 110 volt VFD.

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    Good morning, we purchased the vfd with 220v but here in south america the standard is 110v, will it work? or should I adapt one power outlet to 220v

  • MY LASER MACHINE VERTICAL DOES NOT ACTIVATE THE LASER TUBE, VERIFY THE POWER SUPPLIES AND THEY ARE WORKING WHICH THE PROBLEM CAN BE

    Same issue here -- TTL output from the AWC708C never seems to be pulled low. Still troubleshooting.

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    MY LASER MACHINE VERTICAL DOES NOT ACTIVATE THE LASER TUBE, VERIFY THE POWER SUPPLIES AND THEY ARE WORKING WHICH THE PROBLEM CAN BE

  • Interested in the 110v 1.5kw spindle and vfd. Need an er16, or preferably an er20 collett. Would this item work.

    Currently in our current stock the collet that work with our 1.5kW spindle 110V/220V, will be the ER-11. Only the 2.2kW spindle uses the ER-20 collet.

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    Interested in the 110v 1.5kw spindle and vfd. Need an er16, or preferably an er20 collett. Would this item work.

  • I am interested in buying the 2.2 kW spindle. Does it run much quieter than a 2 hp Porter Cable router? You also mention a pump with a bucket of water. How long until the water is too warm to cool the spindle?

    The 2.2kW Spindle has many advantages over a standard router such as the Porter Cable. The most obvious benefit to the user is the significant reduction of both dust and noise.

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    What size water source is needed and how long can it be used before it is too warm? Do you have a pressure vs. flow curve for the spindle so I can properly size the water pump?

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    I used a small pond pump inside a 5 gallon bucket. I put a little bit of windshield washer fluid in with it to keep anything from growing in it. It's worked great. I've had 1 hour run times with no noticeable increase in spindle temp.

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    I am interested in buying the 2.2 kW spindle. Does it run much quieter than a 2 hp Porter Cable router? You also mention a pump with a bucket of water. How long until the water is too warm to cool the spindle?

  • Have a CNC routher that uses the Porter Cable 78125 considering 2.2kw spindle and controller do you have any mounts and our recommenadtions?

    You are making the right choice. The overall cost benefit of a spindle over a router is worth the change. We used a router back in 2008-2012 and constantly replaced it due to the daily use, but we are still using the same spindle we began using back in 2012.

    We sell a mount that you can find here:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-80mm-mount

    The mount fits standard 80mm spindles.

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    Have a CNC routher that uses the Porter Cable 78125 considering 2.2kw spindle and controller do you have any mounts and our recommenadtions?

  • The breakout board receives 5v power from the USB port and from my computer's USB or does it need to come from a 5v adapter?

    The breakout board receives 5v power from the USB. There is no need for an external 5v power adapter.

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    The breakout board receives 5v power from the USB port and from my computer's USB or does it need to come from a 5v adapter?