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Question: I have blacktoe 4.1 with porter cable 890 router.To convert to spindle(2.2kw) can I just change the mount?

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If you would like to use a spindle rather than a router on your existing CNC, we will send you another set of components that will allow the spindle to be mounted properly which includes the z-axis rails, rail support, spindle mounts and the dust shoe components. You can find this item to purchase here: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/category/z-axis

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  • I have blacktoe 4.1 with porter cable 890 router.To convert to spindle(2.2kw) can I just change the mount?

    If you would like to use a spindle rather than a router on your existing CNC, we will send you another set of components that will allow the spindle to be mounted properly which includes the z-axis rails, rail support, spindle mounts and the dust shoe components. You can find this item to purchase here: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/category/z-axis

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    I have blacktoe 4.1 with porter cable 890 router.To convert to spindle(2.2kw) can I just change the mount?

  • I have a blacktoe router table with a porter cable 892 currently in it. Which other router(s) fit the same mount?

    The motor mounts for the PC 890 series routers will fit the Bosch 1617 routers as well, however you will need to adjust the top mount to accept the slight edge of the Bosch 1617 router at the top motor mount.

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    I have a blacktoe router table with a porter cable 892 currently in it. Which other router(s) fit the same mount?

  • I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

    We will have to replace the motor mounts that the router currently is mounted to. The process is easy we will need to communicate, through our email or over the phone.
    @:customerservice@gmail.com
    #:281-851-7701

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    I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

  • I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

    If you would like to use a spindle rather than a router on your existing CNC, we will send you another set of components that will allow the spindle to be mounted properly which includes the z-axis rails, rail support, spindle mounts and the dust shoe components. You can find this item to purchase here: https://www.buildyourcnc.com/category/z-axis

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    I own a blacktoe 2x4 cnc. I need to convert to 2.2kw spindle. I cuurently am using the porter cable router spindle.Thanks.

  • I currently own a blacktoe router cnc.Want to convert to spindle.Do I use the same Z axis mount?

    You will not be able to use a router mount for a spindle. You will need to get a spindle mount for your Z axis.

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    I currently own a blacktoe router cnc.Want to convert to spindle.Do I use the same Z axis mount?

  • DO HAVE TO REMOVE THE PORTER CABLE 892 ROUTER EVERY TIME CHANGE BIT?

    If you remove the dust shoe, you should be able to reach the collet to remove the end mill.

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    DO HAVE TO REMOVE THE PORTER CABLE 892 ROUTER EVERY TIME CHANGE BIT?

  • I purachased a bluechick from you in 2011. I am upgrading from a Porter-cable router to a 2.2kw spindle. Can you supply me with drawings for the spindle mount so that I can cut the parts?

    We currently cannot release or sell any plans at this current moment! We apologize for this inconvenience, however if you email us at customerservice@buildyourcnc.com. We can help you get the current parts you will need, for a fully functional 2.2kW z-axis assembly.

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    I purachased a bluechick from you in 2011. I am upgrading from a Porter-cable router to a 2.2kw spindle. Can you supply me with drawings for the spindle mount so that I can cut the parts?

  • How do I adjust the gantry/router mount so it is perpendicular on a Blacktoe machine.

    Simple ways to get the z-axis router/spindle mount to be perpendicular to the table, you will have to get a level. Set the z-axis in place although you will have to remove it to tighten the top screws which will hold the top router/spindle mounts on the z-axis but you will be able to tighten the lower mount without having to remove the entire z-axis.

    Pending more info.

    Additional Information:
    It's not the Router that is out. It's the Z Axis, Y Axis not being perpendicular to the table. One of the problems was the double washer on the back side of the top rail V bearing. I took them off and ground down the screw head instead. Your instructions for building the Black Toe/Foot are NON EXISTENT, for want of a better word. I have buyers remorse.

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    It's still not perpendicular but it's closer.

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    How do I adjust the gantry/router mount so it is perpendicular on a Blacktoe machine.

  • Do you have a laser system that works with the 4.1 blacktoe system?

    We do not currently offer a laser kit specifically for the blackToe, however we do offer a combination spindle/laser tube mount for our greenBull machine here: https://buildyourcnc.com/item/cnc-machine-laser-spindle-combo-head. You could probably modify that mount to suit your needs, or you can contact us directly to discuss a custom mount. We also offer all the additional equipment needed to begin lasing -- tube, power supply, mirrors, etc.

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    Do you have a laser system that works with the 4.1 blacktoe system?

  • Have a CNC routher that uses the Porter Cable 78125 considering 2.2kw spindle and controller do you have any mounts and our recommenadtions?

    You are making the right choice. The overall cost benefit of a spindle over a router is worth the change. We used a router back in 2008-2012 and constantly replaced it due to the daily use, but we are still using the same spindle we began using back in 2012.

    We sell a mount that you can find here:
    https://www.buildyourcnc.com/item/spindle-inverter-2!2kw-spindle-80mm-mount

    The mount fits standard 80mm spindles.

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    Have a CNC routher that uses the Porter Cable 78125 considering 2.2kw spindle and controller do you have any mounts and our recommenadtions?

  • Does the Porter Cable Series 890 Router Collet Kit work with Porter Cable Series 750 Router?

    Yes, our porter cable collets and nuts will fit the porter cable 7518.

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    Does the Porter Cable Series 890 Router Collet Kit work with Porter Cable Series 750 Router?

  • Can I get a replacement computer only ? I have a blacktoe with parallel port and it seems to have stopped working.

    Sure. If you had your own computer to start with and now need a replacement for it, consider our redSprout and redLeaf systems. You can find information about them here: https://buildyourcnc.com/AssembledElectronics.aspx If you started with one of our assembled systems, and only need to replace certain components, contact our sales department at sales@buildyourcnc.com for a quote.

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    Can I get a replacement computer only ? I have a blacktoe with parallel port and it seems to have stopped working.

  • can you offer the blackToe 2'x4', Combo #1 (Plans with DVD) on amazon so I can use my amazon credit to purchase?
  • How can I convert from Xylotex to yours, four axis with limit switches. Have parallel PC and steppers on machine.

    Sure, the USB interface has a place for 4 axes of limit switches.

    Each axis can have two limit switches: one for the ++ (positive) end and one for the -- (negative) end. The positive end would be the limit switch at the end of the machine that, say the machine has a 4'x8' area, reaches a bit after the 8 foot mark. The negative end would be the limit switch behind the 0 foot location behind the origin. If the origin is in the middle, the negative would be at a little more than the -4 foot end and the positive would be at a bit more than the +4 foot end. Note that you can have more than one switch on each pin where the NC is connected in serial fashion and the NO is connected in parallel fashion (this can be seen on the diagram in the multiple limits switch section). The software configurations for the limits switches are under File -> Settings -> Limit.

    A typical limit switch has three connections on it. These connections consist of COM (common), NC (normally closed) and NO (normally open). The COM would generally go to GND and the NC or the NO would go to the pin. If the NC is used, then the the switch is constantly connected until the switch is pushed (engaged) then the connection from the pin to gnd is broken (open). Use the settings in software to set whether in NC or NO configuration.

    Let me know if this information was helpful (or not) by adding information to this question. Thanks.

    User response:
    Thank you very much for this helpful information. I'm still a little fuzzy on how the 6 limit switches physically connect to each other and to the USB breakout board. You've stated one switch (home) goes to positive and another switch (limit) goes to negative. Are all the GND prongs from all 6 switches connected to each other and going to GND on the breakout board, or no? And the NC prongs, how exactly are they connected to each other? And to the board? There has to be a diagram somewhere shows this visually, no? I don't know how to wire the switches in series or in parallel. I have already physically installed all the switches on the machine and ran the wires to where the board is. Now I just need to know where to plug these wires into the board. Also, taking into consideration that I'm using the Planet CNC software, the only settings I have pertaining to limit switches is "Enable/Disable" for each axis, and the actual limit for each axis. Nothing about NC or NO. Is that only in Mach3?
    Thank you.

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    On the USB interface, the COM on the switch connects to GND and the NC or NO connects to the input pin (i.e. x++, y--, etc.)

    Limit switch configuration is rather difficult to understand, especially with series and parallel. You can think of series as a single wire going from GND to the axis letter input terminal (i.e. X++ or X--). If the wire is broken, then the circuit is open (or the switch is engaged in a normally closed scenario). Normally closed is like an actual wire, and when engaged, the switch "opens" (breaks the wire). This is why we recommend in some systems that you can put many switches in series on a single pin. When one of the switches is engaged (breaking the connection) then the entire circuit of switches is broken and the machine stops.

    In a parallel scenario, the state of the circuit is always broken until the one of the switches is engaged and the circuit is then closed or connected. The topology looks like a ladder. All the switches connect to both sides of the ladder and the switches are like the runs of the ladder (the horizontal bars that the feet are placed while climbing). Imagine all of the switches broken in this scenario (normally open). It would be like the ladder could be split in two, but if one of the ladder runs (switches) is closed by engaging it, then that run would connect both sides of the ladder and the two sides of the ladder would have a connection.

    There is a diagram on the USB page of the various limit switch configurations. If you need more information (visual and/or otherwise), please let us know and we will immediately add that information to benefit everyone.

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    How can I convert from Xylotex to yours, four axis with limit switches. Have parallel PC and steppers on machine.

  • HAVE PORTER CABLE 7518 ROUTER ON MY CNC AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOUR ER20 COLLET NUT, FOR THE CABLE, WILL FIT ROUTER.

    Yes, our porter cable collets and nuts will fit the porter cable 7518.

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    HAVE PORTER CABLE 7518 ROUTER ON MY CNC AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOUR ER20 COLLET NUT, FOR THE CABLE, WILL FIT ROUTER.

  • I own a BlackToe cnc machine. The plastic threads with the spring over them broke. Where can i purchase a replacement part?

    If you're talking about the anti-backlash nut, ou can find replacements on our website here: https://buildyourcnc.com/CNCMachineMechanicalParts.aspx and here: https://buildyourcnc.com/CNCMachineMechanicalParts.aspx. If you have something else in mind, please contact us to further describe the part you need.

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    I own a BlackToe cnc machine. The plastic threads with the spring over them broke. Where can i purchase a replacement part?

  • Can you custimize the 2'x4' CNC Machine Kit (blackToe v4.1) w/ 2.2kW Spindle into a 2'x3' Machine Kit?

    Yes, that is not a problem at all. Give us a call.

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    Can you custimize the 2'x4' CNC Machine Kit (blackToe v4.1) w/ 2.2kW Spindle into a 2'x3' Machine Kit?

  • What side of the x and y axis do you mount the stepper motor to? If it does not matter what side, do I have to change something in mach3?

    It is usually best to mount the motor in a way so it is spinning clockwise to avoid confusion.

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    ok, but lets say the motors turn clockwise. if you mount it to ether side of the y axis it will pull to that side so what are the correct positions of the stepper motors. is it the left side or the right side of the y axis and also is it the front or back of the x axis?

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    What side of the x and y axis do you mount the stepper motor to? If it does not matter what side, do I have to change something in mach3?

  • Hi Guys, I just received an order for some cable and realized the moment it arrived that I Miss-ordered. I ordered 8 wire instead of 4 wire. Can I exchange?

    Certainly. The easiest way to process this and get you the correct item, re-order the new item and go ahead and send the mis-ordered item back with a note that you would like a refund for this order.

    If time is not a factor for you but you don't want to be out-of-pocket, then simply send the item back (with a note that you need a refund) and you can re-order after the refund is made.

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    Hi Guys, I just received an order for some cable and realized the moment it arrived that I Miss-ordered. I ordered 8 wire instead of 4 wire. Can I exchange?